Originally posted by SICKPUPPY
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Raoul
I can't speak for the other 2 (suspect V will be similar to me) but here goes. Note that I am starting from the premise that the system is fucked and only outright radicalism will do.
PS staffing: bring in 5% rule. Everyone gets ruthlessly graded on performance, bottom 5% get a warning. If they don't achieve the next year, they get sacked. Call this the fear-based approach to productivity.
PS pay: benchmark all PS pay grades to the average of their Eurozone counterparts. Will realise about 30% savings off the PS pay bill. Anyone doesn't like it, they know where the door is.
SW spending: no more cash payments for dole, childrens allowance ec. Voucher-based system for everything. Benchmark all SW payments to Eurozone averages (again saving billions).
Education: guarantee free up to LC. Tertiary students pay their own fees. Student Loan schemes to be implemented.
Banks: jihad, all-out fucking jihad. Everyone who was making credit decisions during the boom is sacked. Close EBS tomorrow morning. Merge AIB and ILP. Sack half the staff, close half the branches. Order the new AIBLP to be run at breakeven for the next 20 years.
Property: new policy; "low prices good". Remove all property-based tax reliefs.
Industry: keep doing what we're doing. Drive down costs and woo foreign firms at all costs. Do whatever it takes, fuck France, fuck the IRS.
V
Firstly I wouldn't be bothered at this stage. People get what they deserve imo.
However for the sake of the thread I guess I'd do stuff like this.....
Cut costs and encourage entrepreneurship. Shrink government by consolidating quangos and local authorities. Reduce income tax and prsi rates and cut pay to the public sector. Remove any property incentives. Bring in a decent property tax. Scale back social welfare benefits and encourage the unemployed to work in their local communities for some extra tax-free cash.
Why is the government so afraid to tackle waste and overpaid people in the public sector
have friends there who take days off to play playstation etc they would enver be able to hold a job where they would have to be productive.
Raoul
Because they're politicians. Their job is to get re-elected and that means never, ever offending anyone who might vote for you (remember the fiasco over medical cards for rich OAPs?). Especially in a small country like Ireland. We really need a Monti-like figure here.
V
Because those are the people who voted the govt in and that's the system the politicians know and have come up through. You can't get radical change from within.
With these budgets as an uneconomic mind why not get or bring in severe cuts now
to me its like having gangrine in ones shin and just removing the toes when the leg needs to be chopped from the knee down.
Raoul
Again, politicians.
V
+!,000,000,000,000,000
Will we continue to lose big multinationals to eastern europe and cheaper labour markets like Dell did and seeing as they seem to be our only shining light in a dim economy whats going to happen when this occurs.
Raoul
We'll be entirely fucked if and when that happens because there sure as shit is no worthwhile policy in place for indigenous wealth creation.
V
When you get to zero the only way is up.
On a scale on 1 -10 how tilted do yee get when policticans say shit like the worst is over we have turned the corner soft landing with property.
Raoul
about 7 now, Used to be 11 when Lenihan and Cowen were saying it.
V
Around Sept/October 2008 I was regularly operating at 9-10 on the tilt-o-meter but these days I find it hilarious. You couldn't pick a worse bunch of dangerous idiots to run a country...with the exception of the people before profit alliance perhaps....
Considering our economic woes if you 3 gusy were in charge of all our finances tommorow and had free reign what would you do.? Why is the government so afraid to tackle waste and overpaid people in the public sector have friends there who take days off to play playstation etc they would enver be able to hold a job where they would have to be productive. With these budgets as an uneconomic mind why not get or bring in severe cuts now to me its like having gangrine in ones shin and just removing the toes when the leg needs to be chopped from the knee down.
Will we continue to lose big multinationals to eastern europe and cheaper labour markets like Dell did and seeing as they seem to be our only shining light in a dim economy whats going to happen when this occurs. On a scale on 1 -10 how tilted do yee get when policticans say shit like the worst is over we have turned the corner soft landing with property
Hitch
I will direct you to Dr Gurdiev on this matter:
http://trueeconomics.blogspot.com/20...er-threat.html
We should ban anyone from public life who ever uses terms like ‘fat cat’. We need to be incentivising well-educated people to earn high wages, rather than demonising them as some sort of scroungers. This attracts the jobs to the country and results in the taxes to the exchequer.
Did a quick analysis a few weeks ago and found that Google paid something like €14m in taxes over a tax period, but their workers paid €70m in payroll taxes. Yet Google is a hero while the workers are fat cats. How bad is it that each time these people open the newspaper the discourse is on how they are not doing enough.
On Croke Park – that clearly needs to be abolished. These universal agreements are always stupid. We need to turn government sectors into service providers who are paid for the services they actually give, and workers wages in these departments based on that. E.g. a hospital might get a standard amount per operation rather than a yearly standard grant. Wages would be linked to the efficiency of department they work in, and departments would be set to be small enough that workers could feel they have an ability to determine the efficiency of their department.
And, yes, multinational companies like Dell will always be coming and going. People need to get used to this idea and invest in life-long learning.
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