ruling please lads

[unir1916]

playing my local pub game last week,self dealt im all in with A9 and called with AQ. Q hits on the flop.i turn my cards over face down in front on me but hit runner runner for the straight..are my cards still live or have i mucked?thanks in advance

[Donk Magnet]

were ur cards face up in the hand at any stage?

[Donkathon]

Was your hand tabled face up first before you muched it face down when the Q hitt?

Edit: John's to fast above lol,

1. If you tabled your hand face up first then when the Q hit you turned them over to muck your hand would still be live here,
2. If you just mucked your hand face down before exposing your hand I rule your hand dead here, In a casino if your cards are retreivable you would be live

[unir1916]

yes when i got called i turned over both cards in front of me ie face up

[Donk Magnet]

hand is live as far as i can see anyway .
what did td say?

[unir1916]

he called my hand live as it hadnt come into contact with any mucked cards.caller wasnt to impressed and to be honest i thought my hand was dead another player called for a ruling

[unir1916]

just another question lads.was talking about the hand at end of the night nd one of the other players said that had it been a cash game my hand would have been called dead..right or wrong

[Donk Magnet]

same rules for all games thats a great saying in pub games "if this was a cash game"

[Fuzzy Logic]

As long as your cards are clearly identifiable from and have not touched the mucked cards then it is live afaik.

[Guest]

Its live all day long as far as I am concerned

[Flushdraw]

I don't think it matters if your cards hit the muck, if you ate them, if they blew out the window or whatever. It went to showdown, your cards were face up and easily identifiable so you win the hand.

[unir1916]

cheers boys .playing again tonight and told the other player involved i would put up post and let him know the out come and lesson learned for me... its never over till its over

[Charlie Harper]

once u call all in ur hand is live even if u muck it ,its still turned face up and is live

[Mellor]

2. If you just mucked your hand face down before exposing your hand I rule your hand dead here, In a casino if your cards are retreivable you would be live

That's wrong, he is all in, tabling his hand face down does not make his heabd dead. They weren't even near the much, ans even if they were it makes no difference.

just another question lads.was talking about the hand at end of the night nd one of the other players said that had it been a cash game my hand would have been called dead..right or wrong

Cash game no difference. In fact, in a cash game, neither hand would of been exposed until the river.



People tryign to angle shoot, when they clearly have the losing hand bug the shit out of me.

[JP Poker]

Your cards were face up and so speak.

Best hand wins.