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Old 26-01-10, 19:56   #1
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How would you like this forum run - Feedback from all welcome

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The tourney forum on Boards while a great resource for all for getting information about events and for promoting events had its issues and led to some of the biggest dramas on the forum.
The aim was for full transparency so that players could make an informed choice about what event to attend, hence the rigid list of criteria to promote a tournament.
We have recieved some negative feedback about the running of the old tournament forum so I'd like to throw this thread open to feedback from players AND organisers about what you'd like and what we might do differently Please remember though players interests have to come number 1.

We cant promise all ideas will be put in place but everything will be considered
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Old 27-01-10, 10:39   #2
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Hi,

Was a fan of the rigid strucure in place for posters on the old tournament forum. Think the posting of numbers for past games (for any weekly/monthly games) should be, at the very least, encouraged as can be a major factor in deciding what game to play and will lead to less people having to post asking what kind of numbers does the SE get on a Friday, etc.

Also an up-to-date thread of what games are in each casino weelky would be good. Needs to be updated more than the last one though, which should be down to each casino/club rather than you having to go check with them. Those that go more than a month out of date should be taken off the list then maybe?

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Old 28-01-10, 19:46   #3
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From an organizer's perspective, I also think that the rigid criteria is necessary. Transparency is so important. Also, having the list to adhere to means that promoters won't forget to post certain things. I usually leave it up to Jp to post our games, but when I post I find it very helpful to have the list required.

With regards to updates on runners, prizepool etc., I do think organizers should do this. However, I think it should be noted that it may not happen immediately. I think people should realize that it might take a day or two for the info to be posted.

I think that for up to date schedules and info for the various casinos/clubs, just one thread for each club seems like a good idea. The Voodoo and the SE do it (just two I can think of right now). And starting a new one each month, like the Voodoo have started doing, cuts down on the amount of pages someone would have to to skim through to find what they are looking for.

Maybe if you could give some examples of the negative feedback, we could come up with some suggestions to make improvements.
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Old 28-01-10, 19:54   #4
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The rigid format was because players were being ripped off. Turning up for games and been dumped on with crap structures and outrageous rake.

So...it's was in OUR interests. I'd like it to be the same or similar.
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Old 29-01-10, 00:16   #5
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I think organisers should be encouraged to post results of the games they are getting free advertising for.
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Old 29-01-10, 16:26   #6
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I think organisers should be encouraged to post results of the games they are getting free advertising for.
I have a problem with this in theory (in practise it rarely matters to me these days). I don't want my name splashed on an internet site for various tournie placings.

I don't want to appear on any irish poker rankings, I don't want my name listed as playing in a cash league or listing how many hours I've spent playing poker in a period. When I pay my money into a tournie I don't remember signing anything about publishing my name or agreeing to same.

It's good for pros or people looking for backers to have their names associated with wins etc, and I've no problem telling poker friends how i got on in a particular event but leaving a permanent record on the internet?? Not clever for a large number or regular punters imo

Yes knowing the numbers and the prizepool is useful for people considering a game but lets remember that google is out there cataloging and maybe some people don't want that info following them.

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Old 29-01-10, 00:36   #7
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From an organizer's perspective, I also think that the rigid criteria is necessary. Transparency is so important. Also, having the list to adhere to means that promoters won't forget to post certain things. I usually leave it up to Jp to post our games, but when I post I find it very helpful to have the list required.

With regards to updates on runners, prizepool etc., I do think organizers should do this. However, I think it should be noted that it may not happen immediately. I think people should realize that it might take a day or two for the info to be posted.

I think that for up to date schedules and info for the various casinos/clubs, just one thread for each club seems like a good idea. The Voodoo and the SE do it (just two I can think of right now). And starting a new one each month, like the Voodoo have started doing, cuts down on the amount of pages someone would have to to skim through to find what they are looking for.

Maybe if you could give some examples of the negative feedback, we could come up with some suggestions to make improvements.
As a player I agree with the above.

Transparency is so important...........................
In respect of the number of runners, Prize pool, who made the final table & payout etc.

NOW that I have found you............................................... ......
I will give this more thought as I was one of those who contributed to some of the negative feeedback on the other Poker forum.

MODs if you do not want me on here just let me know........

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Old 29-01-10, 00:47   #8
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Why wouldn't we want you on here Pat? Nothing is perfect and feedback is the only way to find things to improve.

On the results thing, I agree to a point, but trying to enforce this via bans or similar might well be counter productive. There is something we are talking over about organisers that may help in this matter, and if this happens we will let everyone know.
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Old 29-01-10, 00:57   #9
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NOW that I have found you............................................... ......
I will give this more thought as I was one of those who contributed to some of the negative feeedback on the other Poker forum.

MODs if you do not want me on here just let me know........
As 5star says, we defo want your feedback, we want everyone's.

As well as negative feedback from players about things like Results, etc. we also have had negative feedback from organisers who weren't happy with the strictness levels and the rigid layout and similar, we're willing to listen to everyone, our first priority will be to players obviously, but a robust discussion in here between all the parties would be very useful. And if we can make life easier for everyone then that's great IMO.

Fire out any opinions you guys have don't hold back, even if it's about how we modded the last place, we may not be able to make the required changes, but if we don't know about an issue then we can't fix it. PM us even if you don't want to post it publicly.
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Old 29-01-10, 15:59   #10
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I think the charter everyone had to fill out for advertising tournaments should stay but also with more info. Saying yes to every question tells us nothing.

For example the TD question should actually state who the TD is not just that there is one.

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Old 29-01-10, 16:28   #11
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As 5star says, we defo want your feedback, we want everyone's.

As well as negative feedback from players about things like Results, etc. we also have had negative feedback from organisers who weren't happy with the strictness levels and the rigid layout and similar, we're willing to listen to everyone, our first priority will be to players obviously, but a robust discussion in here between all the parties would be very useful. And if we can make life easier for everyone then that's great IMO.

Fire out any opinions you guys have don't hold back, even if it's about how we modded the last place, we may not be able to make the required changes, but if we don't know about an issue then we can't fix it. PM us even if you don't want to post it publicly.

The actual presentation of the inof required could probably be improved. Most of the complaining organisers had something to hide imo.

The good organisers welcomed the rules imho. It made them stand out and considering the free advertising they got it was a very small price.
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Old 16-02-10, 11:16   #12
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Hi All

The tourney forum on Boards while a great resource for all for getting information about events and for promoting events had its issues and led to some of the biggest dramas on the forum.
The aim was for full transparency so that players could make an informed choice about what event to attend, hence the rigid list of criteria to promote a tournament.
We have recieved some negative feedback about the running of the old tournament forum so I'd like to throw this thread open to feedback from players AND organisers about what you'd like and what we might do differently Please remember though players interests have to come number 1.

We cant promise all ideas will be put in place but everything will be considered
Just the way it is, your all legends for setting up this board, cant wait to get posting.
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Old 18-02-10, 19:40   #13
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Folks, I've created the Festivals forum, its currently a sub forum of this forum. That can be changed later though if needs be
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Old 19-02-10, 11:10   #14
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I think regional sub sections would be a good idea. Events promoted by smaller organisers like myself often get ignored (understandably) in the main body. However if there was a Connacht/West section, i would get greater exposure to players in that area who i assume would go staright to that section when looking for a tourney.
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Old 19-02-10, 11:17   #15
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I think regional sub sections would be a good idea. Events promoted by smaller organisers like myself often get ignored (understandably) in the main body. However if there was a Connacht/West section, i would get greater exposure to players in that area who i assume would go staright to that section when looking for a tourney.
How about this a compromise suggestion that might work..

We set up regional subforums. But organisers can post in the main forum AND the relevant regional sub forum if they so desire. It will mean a bit more work for you guys, but I'm sure you dont mind that. From a players point of view they can still see everything in the main forum and if they want they can get a specific local view in the regional forum.

The exception would be Festivals of course which we would rather keep seperate based on the feedback in this thread. Also looking at the Festivals forum I'm a bit concerned that as a sub forum of live events it wont get the traffic it deserves so I propose changing it to a sub forum of General Poker.

Thoughts on these proposals folks?
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Old 19-02-10, 11:43   #16
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How about this a compromise suggestion that might work..

We set up regional subforums. But organisers can post in the main forum AND the relevant regional sub forum if they so desire. It will mean a bit more work for you guys, but I'm sure you dont mind that. From a players point of view they can still see everything in the main forum and if they want they can get a specific local view in the regional forum.
Perfect imo.
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Old 06-08-13, 16:09   #17
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As much as I enjoy the site I find the threads quite cluttered regarding events.

There bundled on top of each other... Perhaps if the events were categorized into areas.. Say north Dublin / South dub ... leinster coonnacht munster Ulster.. Just an idea..
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Sort of agree with fishtank.
A good start would be to list all major Irish Festivals in the Irish Festivals sub section eermmm where they should be.
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Old 07-08-13, 18:43   #19
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As much as I enjoy the site I find the threads quite cluttered regarding events.

There bundled on top of each other... Perhaps if the events were categorized into areas.. Say north Dublin / South dub ... leinster coonnacht munster Ulster.. Just an idea..

They had tried this before and it didn't seem to work so it was scrapped

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Sort of agree with fishtank.
A good start would be to list all major Irish Festivals in the Irish Festivals sub section eermmm where they should be.
Would love to see the return of the calender for MTT's was a great idea
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Old 07-08-13, 18:46   #20
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As much as I enjoy the site I find the threads quite cluttered regarding events.

There bundled on top of each other... Perhaps if the events were categorized into areas.. Say north Dublin / South dub ... leinster coonnacht munster Ulster.. Just an idea..
We tried this before and it was found not to work. We don't generally police those forums unless something is brought to our attention, so threads often ended up in the wrong place, and it was generally decided by the users of the area that the region specific forums were not a good idea.

On the festivals thing Mick, same as above, if they are in the wrong place we generally won't know unless someone tells us they are in the wrong place, which no one has done. I know I rarely look in that section unless there is a reason, and I think the others are the same.
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