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Old 09-10-14, 14:15   #1
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Dublin Poker Festival January 30th - February 8th

D4 Events are proud to announce Dublin Poker Festival a 10 day poker fest featuring 31 events and incorporating ACOP - Amateur Championships Of Poker, The European Deepstack Poker Championships and the inaugural Irish Seniors.

The full schedule can be found here http://www.d4events.com/dublin-poker...al-3/schedule/

I will post full details of structures over the coming days.
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Old 14-10-14, 15:48   #2
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Old 30-10-14, 01:33   #3
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Please tell me the rake on the acop main is being reduced this year, 165 + 35 is just ridiculous and don't think it can be in any way justified.
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Old 03-11-14, 21:17   #5
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Please tell me the rake on the acop main is being reduced this year, 165 + 35 is just ridiculous and don't think it can be in any way justified.
Hi EV....
Professional dealers will be providing a service to all players over the 2 days. 2 LONG days. It is actually a fee of approx €28 + vat reg as the lads will have to pay 23% vat on all players registered. if you balance the average of players playing time, and it comes out at 7 hours per player (guesstimating) then it's €4 an hour to have Poker clocks, tables, cards, chips, pro dealers, TD's and delivery, display and dismantle.....
Best value service in the world.... half the cost of a game of snooker..IMO
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Old 04-11-14, 19:08   #6
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Hi EV....
Professional dealers will be providing a service to all players over the 2 days. 2 LONG days. It is actually a fee of approx €28 + vat reg as the lads will have to pay 23% vat on all players registered. if you balance the average of players playing time, and it comes out at 7 hours per player (guesstimating) then it's €4 an hour to have Poker clocks, tables, cards, chips, pro dealers, TD's and delivery, display and dismantle.....
Best value service in the world.... half the cost of a game of snooker..IMO
I'm aware there is many costs involved but I mean similar tournaments have been run for lower 15-25 euro reg. IPO Dublin had 1600 runners with a 30 euro reg(which is still a bit steep) and I imagine this is in no way gonna compare with that field size. I've been trying to work out how bad the field has to be for the tournament to be even slightly beatable and therefore not worth the trip for a lot of people, point of going to a tournament you're -EV even if you're eg. 20% better than the field?
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Old 04-11-14, 20:23   #7
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I'm aware there is many costs involved but I mean similar tournaments have been run for lower 15-25 euro reg. IPO Dublin had 1600 runners with a 30 euro reg(which is still a bit steep) and I imagine this is in no way gonna compare with that field size. I've been trying to work out how bad the field has to be for the tournament to be even slightly beatable and therefore not worth the trip for a lot of people, point of going to a tournament you're -EV even if you're eg. 20% better than the field?
Hi James,

If you just take the ACOP registration fee as a percentage it seems high, but if you appreciate what you get for it surely not, 2 days of professional dealing staff, floor staff, tournament director and security, a live streamed final table, professional registration and tournament software system, side activities (still working on what these will be).

Come down and play ACOP or indeed any event at the Dublin Poker Festival and if you don't believe that players get value for their registration fee I will refund your registration fee to you.

I hope to see you at the festival.

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Old 05-11-14, 18:42   #9
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What is the Luas situation#?
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I am pretty sure that the Luas extension to Dublin Airport has been prioritised as Cabinet level, to ensure the Luas will be going out to the Regency for this event.

My best understanding is the funding for this project has been raised by putting a small tax on H20.

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Hi James,

If you just take the ACOP registration fee as a percentage it seems high, but if you appreciate what you get for it surely not, 2 days of professional dealing staff, floor staff, tournament director and security, a live streamed final table, professional registration and tournament software system, side activities (still working on what these will be).

Come down and play ACOP or indeed any event at the Dublin Poker Festival and if you don't believe that players get value for their registration fee I will refund your registration fee to you.

I hope to see you at the festival.

Brian.
Thanks for getting back to me, and I'm sure you'll offer a great service over the weekend and the tournament will be run brilliantly but a vast amount of players will consider the reg fee as a % to determine whether the tournament is good value or not. Even a €5 reduction in the reg fee would be a huge improvement, and for example all the IPOs that get bigger numbers provide their players with all the things you've mentioned yet charge a €30 reg. I feel it would attract alot more players if the reg was reduced even just slightly and may actually benefit you more over the week in terms of total players(and total reg paid).
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Thanks for getting back to me, and I'm sure you'll offer a great service over the weekend and the tournament will be run brilliantly but a vast amount of players will consider the reg fee as a % to determine whether the tournament is good value or not. Even a €5 reduction in the reg fee would be a huge improvement, and for example all the IPOs that get bigger numbers provide their players with all the things you've mentioned yet charge a €30 reg. I feel it would attract alot more players if the reg was reduced even just slightly and may actually benefit you more over the week in terms of total players(and total reg paid).
if it helps your EV I will take 10% of your action for €30..... Jason T wouldn't get that mark up.....(but he would ask!)
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Old 06-11-14, 02:50   #13
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if it helps your EV I will take 10% of your action for €30..... Jason T wouldn't get that mark up.....(but he would ask!)
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It's not about the money to me at all it's just these high reg fees are obviously a big dis-incentive to a lot of players to make the trip. And also given that similar tournaments are being run for a smaller reg fee I think it's fair enough to at least question the 35 reg? And "its still only half the price of a game of snookerl" isn't really a justifiable answer.

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Old 06-11-14, 15:09   #14
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It's not about the money to me at all it's just these high reg fees are obviously a big dis-incentive to a lot of players to make the trip. And also given that similar tournaments are being run for a smaller reg fee I think it's fair enough to at least question the 35 reg? And "its still only half the price of a game of snookerl" isn't really a justifiable answer.
It 100% is justifiable. It depends on if individuals are happy to pay for 2 DAYS of an event being put on and operated at a professional level for €28 per person.....
All poker "classics" are games that an operator provides the service of:
  • Room Hire
  • Advertising the game
  • providing all staff, floor staff, TD's and admin
  • Security (for YOUR, the players, money)
  • Providing several vans to transport all required equipment for a large tournament, setup display and dismantle...... get equipment back and unloaded to storage.
This is a full, 2 day SERVICE that the operators are providing and, if you are questioning where your €28 goes, then the above list should answer your question. I would be very confident that the €28 they collect from your reg fee balances out, after overheads, that the tournament runs at a slight loss. It would only be the cash action that makes the tournament anyway worthwhile from a business prospective. As most of the pros who don't play cash games will tell you.... this Country probably has the best value of reg fee in the world (considering the unbelievable amount of play from structures that these smaller buy-in events allow).

Yes, they will hope to make a profit after cash action. But your question was about ev and value... and again, I think it's the best in the world....

PS.... I have zero connection to the event at any level!
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Old 07-11-14, 00:56   #15
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if it helps your EV I will take 10% of your action for €30..... Jason T wouldn't get that mark up.....(but he would ask!)
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I don't like this shit reply this is typical reply since this site was started the person asked a question and gets this bullshit reply of course you don't have a vested interest Your right.
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I don't like this shit reply this is typical reply since this site was started the person asked a question and gets this bullshit reply of course you don't have a vested interest Your right.
If you read the thread properly you will see my actual response to his question was post 5..... And after giving a breakdown of where the 35 went, the OP came back with the already answered "But why is it so high?" That staking offer was tongue in cheek because what else could I respond to someone who has asked a question, and been told?
And my post 14 gives a further explanation...
Staking offer stands!

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Old 07-11-14, 02:21   #17
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If you read the thread properly you will see my actual response to his question was post 5..... And after giving a breakdown of where the 35 went, the OP came back with the already answered "But why is it so high?" That staking offer was tongue in cheek because what else could I respond to someone who has asked a question, and been told?
And my post 14 gives a further explanation...
Staking offer stands!
How do you no the breakdown of the 35 euro are you privy to what they pay dealers hotel etc are you a mouth piece for d4 events

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Old 07-11-14, 06:06   #18
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How do you no the breakdown of the 35 euro are you privy to what they pay dealers hotel etc are you a mouth piece for d4 events
I KNOW the breakdown because it is basic common sense.
Yes I am "privy"
And again, If you bother to read the posts.... I have NO affiliation to the organisers or this event.
No, I am my own mouth piece
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Anyway, Let the organisers entertain your further demands for information . good luck to all playing this. Should be a good game...
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Old 07-11-14, 15:22   #20
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