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Old 07-02-14, 11:02   #1
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Irish Open Mini 2014 (2 Day Event)



Hi IPB'ers.....we're putting together a huge promotion and satellite series this year for the Irish Open Mini. After last year's success we can see that the appetite for a tournament with this structure buy-in and the prestige of an Irish Open title is what a huge number of players want, so we thought we would do it all over again, only bigger!

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The Burlington Hotel is now the Double Tree Hotel by Hilton, Dublin.

Date: The Irish Open Mini 2014 will run from Sunday 20th and Monday 21st April (Easter Sunday and Monday) 2014.

Entry; costs €200 + €25 registration fee.

The satellite series is launching next Saturday with a €5 re-buy. There are 2 X €225 Irish Open Mini seats GTD.

For players that are interested in winning a main event seat we have a special offer. Win 9 X €225 Irish Open Mini seats and you have the option to exchange the 9 seats for a €2,250 Main event entry.

1. Who is running the event (organisation, society etc) - Paddypowerpoker.com
2. The purpose of the event (charity, commercial etc) - Commercial
3. Date - 20th to 21st April
4. Location - Double Tree Hotel by Hilton, Dublin.
5. Any guaranteed prize pool - N/A
6. Registration and Start time of event - Registration opens at 11:00 on Sunday 20th April, tournament starts at 13:00 20th April
7. Any prerequisites (member of club, society etc) - N/A
8. How can tickets be purchased & is there a maximum number (in advance, at the door etc) - Online by winning a seat in a satellite or at the door.
9. Type of Tournament (Hold'em/Omaha etc Freezeout/Rebuy etc) - NLH F/O
10. Cost of entry - €225
11. How much of the entry fee is made up of registration fee - €25
12. If a rebuy, cost of rebuys/top-up - N/A
13. How many and what duration are rebuys available - N/A
14. % of entry fee/rebuys/top-up going into prize fund - N/A
15. How many places being paid - Top 12% of field approx
16. Is any money from the prize fund held back for future tournaments, if so, how much - N/A
17. Any tickets for future events given out as prizes. If so, how many - N/A
18. Any additional prizes given out (merchandise etc) - N/A
19. Starting chips - 10,000
20. Rebuy and top-up chip amounts - N/A
21. Blind levels - All levels included, full schedule to be posted shortly.
22. Blind timeframes - 30 minutes levels.
23. Are there going to be dealers and their level of skill - Yes, top class dealers all.
24. Will there be a documented list of rules - yes
25. Is there a tournament director - yes
26. How are disputes handled ; who has final say - TD
27. Are there any cash games offered, if so, please outline the rake for each limit offered - Yes, all cash games offered. Smaller games have a rake of 5% capped at €10, will confirm bigger game rakes in due course.

Any questions about the event please send us a PM or update the thread!

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Old 07-02-14, 13:32   #2
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The event itsself will the prizepool be cash or irish open tickets ?
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Old 07-02-14, 16:35   #3
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The event itsself will the prizepool be cash or irish open tickets ?
If you cash in the Irish Open Mini 2014 you will be paid in cold hard cash or have funds transferred into your PPP account, whichever you prefer.
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Old 16-02-14, 12:04   #4
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If you cash in the Irish Open Mini 2014 you will be paid in cold hard cash or have funds transferred into your PPP account, whichever you prefer.
Hi could you clarify what the starting stack will be at his? Is the starting stack really 30k for this mini event as stated on this thread? Because on the PPP webpage it says 10k starting stack? ( Personally I think 10k is too low a starting stack of 15k or 20k would be much better). Thanks.
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Old 16-02-14, 15:44   #5
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The event itsself will the prizepool be cash or irish open tickets ?
we have a contender for stupid question of the year, How could you possibly read the op and ask if it's a satellite?
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Old 16-02-14, 15:48   #6
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we have a contender for stupid question of the year, How could you possibly read the op and ask if it's a satellite?
Less of that please.
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Old 16-02-14, 16:22   #7
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we have a contender for stupid question of the year, How could you possibly read the op and ask if it's a satellite?
Is there a prize ?
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Old 18-02-14, 10:30   #8
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Hi could you clarify what the starting stack will be at his? Is the starting stack really 30k for this mini event as stated on this thread? Because on the PPP webpage it says 10k starting stack? ( Personally I think 10k is too low a starting stack of 15k or 20k would be much better). Thanks.
Apologies, we haven't checked in on this thread for a few days. The starting stack is indeed 10k as per the website (mods can you please edit OP?).

We have to bear in mind that we are expecting 400+ players for this event and that we have to finish it within the two days. That's the reason the structure is 10,000 with a 30 minute clock.

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Old 04-03-14, 20:49   #9
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Hmmm you'll know more about this than me but that sounds a but like a crap shoot. 15k min at 30min blinds or 10k with 30 / 40 minutes. imo.
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Old 05-03-14, 00:52   #10
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lol ... PPP ... customer treatment

For the record ... just stating what 95% of irish poker society KNOWS (and u still acting like its not a fact, after years of experience of yours)

... Standard 100 Freeze-outs (+ always few bikes) around the country are being played with 15,000 starting stacks and 30 minute levels for at least decade now ... as 1 or 2 day events
averaging anything from 100 to 1229 entries (over 1200 entries at The November Challenge 2012 Clane - had 2 starting days so basically 3 day event ... still plausible,
... and YOU are saying 400 players with 15k stacks couldnt be comfortably done over 2 days.

at least put some effort to your insulting excuse !?

... U gotta have us for MUGS
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Old 05-03-14, 11:30   #11
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Hmmm you'll know more about this than me but that sounds a but like a crap shoot. 15k min at 30min blinds or 10k with 30 / 40 minutes. imo.
Hi 8611,

We've actually put a lot of thought into this structure and are aware that there is a huge amount of prestige associated with winning the Irish Open Mini, as well as the main event so we want to offer the best possible value for money we can. We're also very conscious of the fact that we have a lot of older players (like Doke and Mick Mc Closkey ) attending the Irish Open and we don't want to ask them to play any longer than a 12 hour shift on any one day, so we have to take that into account when deciding on the structure.

We know that a higher starting stack is viewed as a "better" structure these days but we disagree. It simply adds a different dynamic to a game, especially in the earlier stages.

With a 10,000 starting stack, if a player re-raises to 1,000 in say Level 1, then his/ her raise will force more players to fold than if the starting stack was 15,000 or 20,000. We're not saying one or the other is better, they're just a different tournament format and we believe ours is one where more aggressive players will be rewarded by winning more pots without a showdown (which actually eliminates a lot of the crapshoot factor).

If you want to have a structure where you are going to sit and wait for hours on end against players that are waiting for a lock hand, or can call for value without if affecting their stack in relation to the blinds then there is a huge selection of games available in the live event market these days. If you want a structure that encourages players to make moves, creates action and involves utilising a slightly different strategy to reward good poker play then we offer that with the Irish Open Mini.

To summarise; what we're saying is that the starting stack doesn't actually effect the playability of a structure as much as everyone might believe, it just requires a different strategy to play, rather than one being better or worse.

At the end of the day players will vote with their feet but we had a huge turnout for the first year of the Irish Open Mini last year and we're expecting an even bigger field this year (probably a full house as we'll have far more online qualifiers for the event this year too).

Hope you're all looking forward to what will be one of the best ever Irish Open festivals next Easter.

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Old 05-03-14, 12:19   #12
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PPP used to say all that about the main event starting stack also.
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^^^^^^^^^
This is complete bollocks and sounds like the same reasoning that kept the IO with a 10k starting stack for so many years when every other major tourni in Europe had moved on.
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Old 05-03-14, 12:23   #14
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PPP used to say all that about the main event starting stack also.
That's because it's true
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Old 05-03-14, 13:02   #15
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Difficult to decide which is the greatest pile of bollocks in your post but I reckon its prob this

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Hi 8611,

are aware that there is a huge amount of prestige associated with winning the Irish Open Mini
Anyway, its your event so good luck with it. Was going to get an early flight home from holidays to play this but prob won't in light of structure, I've no doubt you'll still get numbers, I've also no doubt you'd get more with a better structure.
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Old 05-03-14, 13:23   #16
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Is the blind structure finalised yet and is it the same as the main event? Can you please post it if it is?

You can't really get the full picture for a tournament structure based on the starting stack alone as many tournaments with a larger SS often skip some levels.
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Old 05-03-14, 13:26   #17
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Was going to get an early flight home from holidays to play this but prob won't in light of structure
Really?



Way too much prestige and value involved in the Irish Open Mini to give it up for a holiday, how could you?
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Is the blind structure finalised yet and is it the same as the main event? Can you please post it if it is?

You can't really get the full picture for a tournament structure based on the starting stack alone as many tournaments with a larger SS often skip some levels.

Sorry yes, we'll get these posted on the website soon too.

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Starting Chips 10,000  
Entry 200+25  
     
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Hi 8611,

We've actually put a lot of thought into this structure and are aware that there is a huge amount of prestige associated with winning the Irish Open Mini, as well as the main event so we want to offer the best possible value for money we can. We're also very conscious of the fact that we have a lot of older players (like Doke and Mick Mc Closkey ) .
Oh the cheek

At the risk of sounding like the Grandad who insists on doing pressups every time you see him to prove he's still fit, I was running 24 hours until a few years ago, do still routinely do 16 hour online shifts, and I am in talks with a tourney promoter to do a two or three day endurance poker tourney with no sleep breaks (that is, it plays through to a finish with only a short break every 2 hours).

As for Mick, sure he's been known to alternate 14 hours in the poker room with 10 in the bar trying to cadge a free drink (it saves on hotel rooms)
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Oh the cheek

At the risk of sounding like the Grandad who insists on doing pressups every time you see him to prove he's still fit, I was running 24 hours until a few years ago, do still routinely do 16 hour online shifts, and I am in talks with a tourney promoter to do a two or three day endurance poker tourney with no sleep breaks (that is, it plays through to a finish with only a short break every 2 hours).

As for Mick, sure he's been known to alternate 14 hours in the poker room with 10 in the bar trying to cadge a free drink (it saves on hotel rooms)
Lol, Dara, I was going to reply to PPP in your defense but I thought it'd be more humurous to see what you'd post yourself. That comment by PPP has to be the funniest thing I have read to date on boards. I'm now looking forward to all the fragile "grandads of poker" whacking the PPP team with there walking sticks at the Irish Open between restroom breaks every 3 minutes and maybe one hand of poker an hour between grandad naps at the tables
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