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Old 30-06-15, 16:49   #161
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I saw this on Blonde Poker:


Great work from Ivey in the one drop

Pratyush ‏@pratyushbuddiga 14h14 hours ago
Ivey snap goes "Alright Noel" the first hand Hastings raises hahaha
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Old 01-07-15, 02:01   #162
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Getting his name mentioned everywhere. All he ever wanted. Money well received.
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Old 17-08-15, 22:22   #168
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Things blowing up over on 2+2 for Noel.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...eater-1552119/
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Old 17-08-15, 22:25   #169
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Things blowing up over on 2+2 for Noel.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...eater-1552119/
Old news at this stage. Doubt he gives a shite.
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Old 18-08-15, 09:30   #170
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Things blowing up over on 2+2 for Noel.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...eater-1552119/
Clearly somebody on a witch hunt.
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Old 18-08-15, 12:04   #171
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No updates to that thread in a week. It seems NVG and Twoplustwo aren't interested in this side of it. The focus has been overwhelmingly on Hastings and the ethics and extent of cheating in high stakes since the outset.

That doesn't mean the sites don't care about that end of the breech of Ts and Cs of course it they are investigating the matter seriously.
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Old 18-08-15, 15:21   #172
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In my opinion the ball stops with the operators for creating an environment and ecosystem that allows this to happen in the first place. Hastings wasn't the first and won't be the last. Noel wasn't the first and won't be the last. Until the industry at large gets its act together that is!
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Old 18-08-15, 17:39   #173
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In my opinion the ball stops with the operators for creating an environment and ecosystem that allows this to happen in the first place. Hastings wasn't the first and won't be the last. Noel wasn't the first and won't be the last. Until the industry at large gets its act together that is!
Agree to a certain extent that operators should be more open/upfront about these past/present/future allegations but there is only so much in which they can be culpable but it ultimately comes down to people being able to circumvent the rules/ethics and that is something no T&C's can hold up, imo it's ultimately down to the people who flaunt these rules.

Site operators have procedures/protocols in place for situations like these and I'd hazard a guess it works a lot of the time but where there is a will there is a way and people will circumvent them, what do you think operators should be doing & possibly not doing?
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Old 18-08-15, 20:49   #174
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Agree to a certain extent that operators should be more open/upfront about these past/present/future allegations but there is only so much in which they can be culpable but it ultimately comes down to people being able to circumvent the rules/ethics and that is something no T&C's can hold up, imo it's ultimately down to the people who flaunt these rules.

Site operators have procedures/protocols in place for situations like these and I'd hazard a guess it works a lot of the time but where there is a will there is a way and people will circumvent them, what do you think operators should be doing & possibly not doing?
The only reason this is an issue is down to enforced screen-names and data-mining. Anonymity or some form of data-access restrictions (even banning HUDs) would go some way towards creating a more benign environment. Basically hastings wanted to play a rogue account to hide his identity. If everybody's identity was 'hidden' the issue wouldn't exist. Its a little more complex than this but I think the operators could/should do more. All they care about is rake it seems. Meanwhile the community is crumbling.

All just my opinion of course. I'm sure there will be lots of online Pro's who shudder at the thought of not having a HUD or the Identities of their prey.
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Old 18-08-15, 22:58   #175
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I get why the sites might allow these accounts go
"undetected". Laliberte in his various guises
significantly contributed to high stakes cash games
when Durr etc were generating publicity.

I get why Hastings might see
advantages to hiding his identity.

What I don't get is why somebody building a
high profile career in the gambling industry would
risk his reputation in this way. Particularly when he
appears intelligent and financially comfortable.

Getting why the others might act as they have
does not infer that I agree with their actions btw.

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Is there some argument against banning datamining and HUD software that doesn't occur to me? Seems an absolute no brainer
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Old 19-08-15, 11:14   #177
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Is there some argument against banning datamining and HUD software that doesn't occur to me? Seems an absolute no brainer
I'd say that would be nigh on impossible. much easier to allow everyone to change their handles whenever they like rendering datamining and HUD use pretty limited
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Old 19-08-15, 11:41   #178
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I'd say that would be nigh on impossible. much easier to allow everyone to change their handles whenever they like rendering datamining and HUD use pretty limited
Yeah I know it's probably impossible, but if that's the only logic that exists for it not being against the rules then the same ought to apply to multi-accounting.

Unenforceable rules ironically only hurt honest players.
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Old 19-08-15, 12:19   #179
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I'd say that would be nigh on impossible. much easier to allow everyone to change their handles whenever they like rendering datamining and HUD use pretty limited
Everything is possible with software!

What is the relevance of the screen name in real terms ?

Why is it even necessary to display one ? its a relatively simple routine to generate a random image/avatar/label that is linked to the back-end user account.
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