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View Poll Results: So let's have a Staking Hall of Fame
Go for it, i want to see my name in lights 36 80.00%
Maybe not....i'm not a fish, i just run bad...alot 0 0%
Purple Monkey Dishwasher 9 20.00%
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Old 24-01-11, 06:40   #21
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Old 25-01-11, 03:59   #22
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Even down money on this bad month gets worse
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Old 27-01-11, 01:26   #23
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First Edition of the Hall of Fame. There's still some tweaking to be done and i have missed a couple of stakes (anything that hasn't been moved to the staking forum) and the last 2 nights haven't been included.

Horse Hall of Fame


HorseBuyinCashedProfitStakerSite
alocon$8.8$0.0 twitch1984Pokerstars
Angry-Ball$8.8$0.0 kenthekingpokerstars
aodea$11.0$0.0 Dice75Pokerstars
aya14$3.3$0.0 sligboiFullTilt
BrianByrne$22.0$31.0$4.5Dice75Pokerstars
BrianByrne$11.0$17.5$3.3TommyGunnePokerstars
Bubbleking$3.3$0.0 sligboiFullTilt
Bubbleking$8.0$0.0 Angry-BallFullTilt
Charlie Harper$11.0$0.0 Dice75Pokerstars
dannydiamond$8.8$17.6$4.4twitch1984Pokerstars
Dice75$5.5$24.0$9.3kenthekingPokerstars
Dice75$2.2$0.0 kenthekingPokerstars
donk magnet$22.0$0.0 fergPokerstars
donk magnet$1.1$0.0 loungsPokerstars
donk magnet$1.1$0.0 loungsPokerstars
donk magnet$11.0$0.0 Dice75Pokerstars
donk magnet$2.2$5.6$3.0japeyePokerstars
donk magnet$8.8$0.0 twitch1984Pokerstars
donk magnet$2.2$0.0 Mahony92Pokerstars
donk magnet$1.1$0.0 DonkathonPokerstars
donk magnet$2.2$0.0 luckylawzFullTilt
Donkathon$11.0$0.0 Dice75Pokerstars
Donkathon$11.0$0.0 Frossachpokerstars
Donkathon$16.5$0.0 JWillo1Pokerstars
Donkathon$22.0$0.0 Dice75Pokerstars
Donkathon$11.0$0.0 TommyGunnePokerstars
Donkathon$4.4$0.0 twitch1984Pokerstars
elbows$3.3$0.0 kenthekingPokerstars
elbows$11.0$0.0 TommyGunnePokerstars
ferg$5.5$0.0 CafPokerstars
Fiend$8.8$17.6$4.4twitch1984Pokerstars
Fiend$4.4$0.0 twitch1984Pokerstars
Fiend$11.0$0.0 Dice75Pokerstars
Frossach$11.0$43.7$16.4Dice75Pokerstars
Frossach$11.0$37.7$13.4GhostfaceStePokerstars
Frossach$4.4$0.0 donk magnetPokerstars
Frossach$5.5$0.0 Cafpokerstars
Frossach$11.0$0.0 TommyGunnePokerstars
Frossach$5.5$0.0 fergPokerstars
Frossach$2.2$0.0 japeyePokerstars
Frossach$8.8$17.2$4.2twitch1984Pokerstars
Frossach$4.4$0.0 twitch1984Pokerstars
GhostfaceDte$11.0$0.0 Dice75Pokerstars
healwayscallsme$2.2$0.0 japeyePokerstars
Hegzy$11.0$0.0 GhostfaceStePokerstars
Hegzy$4.4$0.0 donk magnetPokerstars
Hegzy$3.3$0.0 sligboiFullTilt
Hegzy$2.2$0.0 Mahony92Pokerstars
iri$hkelt$2.2$0.0 twitch1984Pokerstars
japeye$4.4$0.0 kenthekingPokerstars
japeye$5.5$65.4$40.0fergPokerstars
Kenny$11.0$0.0 GhostfaceStePokerstars
loungs$3.3$0.0 FiendFullTilt
luckylawz$1.1$0.0 loungsPokerstars
luckylawz$5.5$11.0$2.8fergPokerstars
Mahony92$5.5$0.0 kenthekingPokerstars
Mahony92$11.0$16.2$2.6Dice75Pokerstars
Mahony92$22.0$0.0 fergPokerstars
Mahony92$4.4$0.0 kenthekingPokerstars
Mahony92$1.1$0.0 loungsPokerstars
Mahony92$1.1$0.0 loungsPokerstars
Mahony92$5.5$1.6 crowFullTilt
Mahony92$1.1$0.0 japeyePokerstars
Mahony92$2.2$0.0 twitch1984Pokerstars
Mahony92$2.2$0.0 twitch1984Pokerstars
Mahony92$4.4$0.0 twitch1984Pokerstars
Mahony92$3.3$0.0 sligboiFullTilt
Mahony92$1.1$0.0 DonkathonPokerstars
Mahony92$8.0$0.0 Angry-BallFullTilt
Mahony92$2.2$0.0 luckylawzFullTilt
NObrainNOtumour$2.2$4.4$1.1twitch1984Pokerstars
NObrainNOtumour$2.2$0.0 japeyePokerstars
NObrainNOtumour$8.8$34.0$12.5twitch1984Pokerstars
NObrainNOtumour$4.4$0.0 twitch1984Pokerstars
peterswellman$16.5$0.0 JWillo1Pokerstars
Ramiriquez$1.1$0.0 japeyePokerstars
Ramiriquez$11.0$0.0 Dice75Pokerstars
Ramiriquez$2.2$825.0$425.0twitch1984Pokerstars
Ramiriquez$8.8$29.0$10.1twitch1984Pokerstars
Ramiriquez$8.8$0.0 twitch1984Pokerstars
Ramiriquez$4.4$0.0 twitch1984Pokerstars
sligoboi$11.0$0.0 FrossachPokerstars
sligoboi$16.5$0.0 JWillo1Pokerstars
The Aul Switcharoo$5.5$0.0 Dice75Pokerstars
The Aul Switcharoo$1.1$0.0 luckylawzPokerstars
tipp86$11.0$0.0 Dice75Pokerstars
Tony3004$5.5$0.0 CafPokerstars
Tony3004$4.4$0.0 twitch1984Pokerstars
Tony3004$11.0$0.0 FiendFullTilt
Trigger$5.5$0.0 kenthekingPokerstars
Trigger$11.0$0.0 Dice75Pokerstars
Trigger$5.5$0.0 fergPokerstars
Trigger$11.0$17.5$3.3TommyGunnePokerstars
Trigger$22.0$0.0 TommyGunnePokerstars
Trigger$2.2$0.0 twitch1984Pokerstars
Trigger$2.2$0.0 japeyePokerstars
Trigger$8.8$0.0 twitch1984Pokerstars
Trigger$4.4$24.6$10.1twitch1984Pokerstars
Trigger$11.0$0.0 FiendFullTilt
Trigger$3.3$0.0 FiendFullTilt
Trigger$2.2$0.0 Mahony92Pokerstars
Trigger$2.8$0.0 Mahony92Pokerstars
Trigger$8.0$6.2$0.0Angry-BallFullTilt
Trigger$11.0$0.0 Dice75Pokerstars
twitch1984$4.4$0.0 kenthekingPokerstars
twitch1984$1.1$2.6$0.7loungsPokerstars
twitch1984$22.0$0.0 Dice75Pokerstars

Staker Hall of Fame

StakerStableOutlayProfit / Loss
Angry-Ball324-17.76
Caf316.5-16.5
crow15.5-5.5
Dice75444-3.12
Dice7515.5-5.5
Dice75333-33
Dice75366-35.5
Dice75333-33
Dice75222-22
donk magnet28.8-8.8
Donkathon22.2-2.2
ferg244-44
ferg2110
ferg21114
Fiend222-22
Fiend26.6-6.6
Frossach222-22
GhostfaceSte333-8.65
japeye22.2-2.2
japeye511-10.6
JWillo1349.5-49.5
kentheking15.59.25
kentheking314.3-14.3
kentheking18.8-8.8
kentheking524.2-24.2
loungs66.6-3.46
luckylawz11.1-1.1
luckylawz24.4-4.4
Mahony9249.35-9.35
sligboi413.2-13.2
TommyGunne677-48.5
twitch198424.4395.6
twitch1984415.46.8
twitch1984972.6-11.9
twitch1984835.2-20.68
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Old 30-01-11, 22:36   #24
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There have been a few threads looking for stakes for live events (and some threads closed).

How about asking players to complete a questionnaire like the tournament questionnaire.
  • What is the most you have won in a live tournament? State win, entry fee, number of players, venue.
  • What is your highest finish in a live festival tournament? Win, entry fee, no of players, venue?
  • What is the biggest festival tournament entry fee paid?
  • In how many countries have you played live events? Name the venues.
  • Have you been staked before? Results?
  • Have you won a club tournament?
  • Name Irishpokerboards users who know you.
  • Post links to your Hendon Mob, officialpokerrankings results.
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Old 04-02-11, 15:31   #25
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Originally Posted by kincsem View Post
There have been a few threads looking for stakes for live events (and some threads closed).

How about asking players to complete a questionnaire like the tournament questionnaire.
  • What is the most you have won in a live tournament? State win, entry fee, number of players, venue.
  • What is your highest finish in a live festival tournament? Win, entry fee, no of players, venue?
  • What is the biggest festival tournament entry fee paid?
  • In how many countries have you played live events? Name the venues.
  • Have you been staked before? Results?
  • Have you won a club tournament?
  • Name Irishpokerboards users who know you.
  • Post links to your Hendon Mob, officialpokerrankings results.
Good thinking Sean but i think it's over complicated and we get so much of that info from them just posting their Hendon Mob Profile.

The biggest win, the highest finish, winning a club tournament will be covered.
Biggest entry fee is a non runner really because it doesn't really tell you anything

I did lay out a charter that people have to fill out based on your idea though so we'll see how it goes and see if we need to change anything for future
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Old 04-02-11, 15:37   #26
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JANUARY STAKING HALL OF FAME

CASHES

HorseBuyinCashedProfitStakerSite
BrianByrne$22.00$31.00$4.50Dice75Pokerstars
BrianByrne$11.00$17.50$3.25TommyGunnePokerstars
Charlie Harper$11.00$19.58$4.29twitch1984Pokerstars
Charlie Harper$4.40$16.80$6.20iri$hkeltpokerstars
corigi$24.80$66.62$16.70ShivverzPokerstars
corigi$4.40$18.40$7.00donk magnetPokerstars
dannydiamond$22.00$99.16$30.86ShivverzFullTilt
dannydiamond$11.00$63.15$20.15ShivverzPokerstars
dannydiamond$20.50$34.18$5.18ShivverzPokerstars
dannydiamond$11.00$25.06$7.03a-k-47FullTilt
dannydiamond$8.80$17.60$4.40twitch1984Pokerstars
dannydiamond$6.00$17.00$5.50AndyFBFullTilt
Dice75$5.50$24.00$9.25kenthekingPokerstars
donk magnet$2.20$5.60$3.00japeyePokerstars
Donkathon$6.20$3.44$0.00FiendFullTilt
Fiend$8.80$17.60$4.40twitch1984Pokerstars
Frossach$11.00$43.69$16.35Dice75Pokerstars
Frossach$11.00$37.70$13.35GhostfaceStePokerstars
Frossach$8.80$17.20$4.20twitch1984Pokerstars
japeye$5.50$65.36$40.00fergPokerstars
luckylawz$5.50$11.00$2.75fergPokerstars
Mahony92$11.00$19.58$4.29twitch1984Pokerstars
Mahony92$11.00$16.16$2.58Dice75Pokerstars
NObrainNOtumour$8.80$34.01$12.50twitch1984Pokerstars
NObrainNOtumour$2.20$4.40$1.10twitch1984Pokerstars
peteypop$5.50$11.25$2.75TriggerPaddy
peteypop$6.20$3.44$0.00FiendFullTilt
Ramiriquez$2.20$825.00$425.00twitch1984Pokerstars
Ramiriquez$8.80$29.00$10.10twitch1984Pokerstars
Trigger$4.40$24.64$10.12twitch1984Pokerstars
Trigger$11.00$17.50$3.25TommyGunnePokerstars
twitch1984$1.10$2.58$0.74loungsPokerstars

NOT CASHED / NO PROFIT

HorseBuyinCashedProfitStakerSite
alocon$8.80$0.00 twitch1984Pokerstars
Angry-Ball$8.80$0.00 kenthekingpokerstars
aodea$11.00$0.00 Dice75Pokerstars
aya14$3.30$0.00 sligboiFullTilt
beedub$11.00$0.00 FiendFullTilt
BrianByrne$11.00$0.00 FiendFullTilt
BrianByrne$22.00$0.00 ShivverzFullTilt
Bubbleking$3.30$0.00 sligboiFullTilt
Bubbleking$8.00$0.00 Angry-BallFullTilt
Charlie Harper$11.00$0.00 Dice75Pokerstars
corigi$11.00$0.00 TriggerPaddy
dannydiamond$15.50$0.00 elbowsPokerstars
dannydiamond$11.00$0.00 ShivverzFullTilt
dannydiamond$26.00$0.00 ShivverzFullTilt
dannydiamond$11.00$0.00 twitch1984Pokerstars
dannydiamond$27.00$0.00 aya14Pokerstars
dannydiamond$4.40$0.00 japeyePokerstars
Dice75$2.20$0.00 kenthekingPokerstars
Dice75$11.00$0.00 twitch1984Pokerstars
DJKendo$6.00$0.00 AndyFBFullTilt
donk magnet$22.00$0.00 fergPokerstars
donk magnet$1.10$0.00 loungsPokerstars
donk magnet$1.10$0.00 loungsPokerstars
donk magnet$11.00$0.00 Dice75Pokerstars
donk magnet$8.80$0.00 twitch1984Pokerstars
donk magnet$2.20$0.00 Mahony92Pokerstars
donk magnet$1.10$0.00 DonkathonPokerstars
donk magnet$2.20$0.00 luckylawzFullTilt
donk magnet$11.00$0.00 iri$hkeltPokerstars
donk magnet$4.40$0.00 japeyePokerstars
Donkathon$11.00$0.00 Dice75Pokerstars
Donkathon$11.00$0.00 Frossachpokerstars
Donkathon$16.50$0.00 JWillo1Pokerstars
Donkathon$22.00$0.00 Dice75Pokerstars
Donkathon$11.00$0.00 TommyGunnePokerstars
Donkathon$4.40$0.00 twitch1984Pokerstars
Donkathon$3.30$0.00 loungsFullTilt
Donkathon$11.00$0.00 FiendFullTilt
eagle eye$11.00$0.00 a-k-47FullTilt
elbows$3.30$0.00 kenthekingPokerstars
elbows$11.00$0.00 TommyGunnePokerstars
emmet$11.00$0.00 a-k-47FullTilt
emmet$22.00$0.00 ShivverzFullTilt
EnzoScifo$22.00$0.00 SirtoyouBoyles
ferg$5.50$0.00 CafPokerstars
Fiend$4.40$0.00 twitch1984Pokerstars
Fiend$11.00$0.00 Dice75Pokerstars
Flushdraw$27.00$0.00 aya14Pokerstars
Frossach$4.40$0.00 donk magnetPokerstars
Frossach$5.50$0.00 Cafpokerstars
Frossach$11.00$0.00 TommyGunnePokerstars
Frossach$5.50$0.00 fergPokerstars
Frossach$2.20$0.00 japeyePokerstars
Frossach$4.40$0.00 twitch1984Pokerstars
Frossach$6.20$0.00 FiendFullTilt
Frossach$4.40$0.00 luckylawzPokerstars
GhostfaceDte$11.00$0.00 Dice75Pokerstars
healwayscallsme$2.20$0.00 japeyePokerstars
healwayscallsme$3.30$0.00 loungsFullTilt
Hegzy$11.00$0.00 GhostfaceStePokerstars
Hegzy$4.40$0.00 donk magnetPokerstars
Hegzy$3.30$0.00 sligboiFullTilt
Hegzy$2.20$0.00 Mahony92Pokerstars
Hegzy$22.00$0.00 ShivverzFullTilt
Howard Finkel$6.00$0.00 AndyFBFullTilt
iri$hkelt$2.20$0.00 twitch1984Pokerstars
iri$hkelt$5.50$0.00 TriggerPaddy
iri$hkelt$4.40$0.00 donk magnetPokerstars
iri$hkelt$11.00$0.00 TriggerPaddy
iri$hkelt$4.40$0.00 DonkathonPokerstars
japeye$4.40$0.00 kenthekingPokerstars
Kenny$11.00$0.00 GhostfaceStePokerstars
loungs$3.30$0.00 FiendFullTilt
luckylawz$1.10$0.00 loungsPokerstars
luckylawz$4.40$0.00 RamiriquezPokerstars
Mahony92$2.20$2.80 twitch1984Pokerstars
Mahony92$5.50$1.62 crowFullTilt
Mahony92$5.50$0.00 kenthekingPokerstars
Mahony92$22.00$0.00 fergPokerstars
Mahony92$4.40$0.00 kenthekingPokerstars
Mahony92$1.10$0.00 loungsPokerstars
Mahony92$1.10$0.00 loungsPokerstars
Mahony92$1.10$0.00 japeyePokerstars
Mahony92$2.20$0.00 twitch1984Pokerstars
Mahony92$2.20$0.00 twitch1984Pokerstars
Mahony92$4.40$0.00 twitch1984Pokerstars
Mahony92$3.30$0.00 sligboiFullTilt
Mahony92$1.10$0.00 DonkathonPokerstars
Mahony92$8.00$0.00 Angry-BallFullTilt
Mahony92$2.20$0.00 luckylawzFullTilt
Mahony92$6.00$0.00 AndyFBFullTilt
Mahony92$5.50$0.00 TriggerPaddy
Mahony92$4.40$0.00 donk magnetPokerstars
Mahony92$4.40$0.00 iri$hkeltPokerstars
Mahony92$11.00$0.00 TriggerPaddy
Mahony92$22.00$0.00 ShivverzFullTilt
Maloney$6.00$0.00 AndyFBFullTilt
NObrainNOtumour$2.20$0.00 japeyePokerstars
NObrainNOtumour$4.40$0.00 twitch1984Pokerstars
NObrainNOtumour$6.00$0.00 AndyFBFullTilt
NObrainNOtumour$15.50$0.00 elbowsPokerstars
peterswellman$16.50$0.00 JWillo1Pokerstars
Ramiriquez$1.10$0.00 japeyePokerstars
Ramiriquez$11.00$0.00 Dice75Pokerstars
Ramiriquez$8.80$0.00 twitch1984Pokerstars
Ramiriquez$4.40$0.00 twitch1984Pokerstars
Ramiriquez$4.40$0.00 luckylawzPokerstars
SamSpuds$11.00$0.00 FiendFullTilt
sligoboi$11.00$0.00 FrossachPokerstars
sligoboi$16.50$0.00 JWillo1Pokerstars
sligoboi$27.00$0.00 aya14Pokerstars
The Aul Switcharoo$5.50$0.00 Dice75Pokerstars
The Aul Switcharoo$1.10$0.00 luckylawzPokerstars
tipp86$11.00$0.00 Dice75Pokerstars
Tony3004$5.50$0.00 CafPokerstars
Tony3004$4.40$0.00 twitch1984Pokerstars
Tony3004$11.00$0.00 FiendFullTilt
TOP TOP$6.00$0.00 AndyFBFullTilt
Trigger$8.00$6.24 Angry-BallFullTilt
Trigger$5.50$0.00 kenthekingPokerstars
Trigger$11.00$0.00 Dice75Pokerstars
Trigger$5.50$0.00 fergPokerstars
Trigger$22.00$0.00 TommyGunnePokerstars
Trigger$2.20$0.00 twitch1984Pokerstars
Trigger$2.20$0.00 japeyePokerstars
Trigger$8.80$0.00 twitch1984Pokerstars
Trigger$11.00$0.00 FiendFullTilt
Trigger$3.30$0.00 FiendFullTilt
Trigger$2.20$0.00 Mahony92Pokerstars
Trigger$2.75$0.00 Mahony92Pokerstars
Trigger$11.00$0.00 Dice75Pokerstars
Trigger$11.00$0.00 stoneystonersonPaddy
twitch1984$4.40$0.00 kenthekingPokerstars
twitch1984$22.00$0.00 Dice75Pokerstars
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Old 04-02-11, 15:42   #27
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Not a lot of winning sessions for stable owners in January. Let's hope Feb is a better month!

StakerStableOutlayProfit / Loss
a-k-47333-7.94
AndyFB742-30.5
Angry-Ball324-17.76
aya14380-81
Caf316.5-16.5
crow15.5-5.5
Dice75444-3.12
Dice7515.5-5.5
Dice75222-22
Dice75333-33
Dice75333-33
Dice75366-35.5
donk magnet313.2-1.8
donk magnet28.8-8.8
Donkathon22.2-2.2
Donkathon14.4-4.4
elbows231-31
ferg21114
ferg2110
ferg244-44
Fiend26.6-6.6
Fiend318.6-11.72
Fiend222-22
Fiend222-22
Fiend222-22
Frossach222-22
GhostfaceSte333-8.65
iri$hkelt319.8-9.2
japeye22.2-2.2
japeye28.8-8.8
japeye511-10.6
JWillo1349.5-49.5
kentheking15.59.25
kentheking18.8-8.8
kentheking314.3-14.3
kentheking524.2-24.2
loungs13.3-3.3
loungs13.3-3.3
loungs66.6-3.46
luckylawz11.1-1.1
luckylawz24.4-4.4
luckylawz18.8-8.8
Mahony9249.35-9.35
Ramiriquez14.4-4.4
Shivverz593.33.7
Shivverz5110-41.7
Sirtoyou122-22
sligboi413.2-13.2
stoneystonerson111-11
TommyGunne677-48.5
Trigger316.5-8.25
Trigger111-11
Trigger222-22
twitch198424.4395.6
twitch19842228.58
twitch1984415.46.8
twitch198412.25
twitch1984972.6-11.9
twitch1984835.2-20.68
twitch1984222-22
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Old 16-02-11, 17:57   #28
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took 80$ for twitch the other day
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Old 03-09-11, 20:53   #29
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Quick hypothetical situation seeing as some people are advertising live events...what if someone took down a live tournament and gave a tip? I know that in the states its commonplace but I'll be honest and say that I haven't took one down of any reasonable amount. Would the tip come out of the stakee's money or stakers part or take it out of the winnings and percentage the rest?
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Old 03-09-11, 21:00   #30
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Quick hypothetical situation seeing as some people are advertising live events...what if someone took down a live tournament and gave a tip? I know that in the states its commonplace but I'll be honest and say that I haven't took one down of any reasonable amount. Would the tip come out of the stakee's money or stakers part or take it out of the winnings and percentage the rest?
Everyone pays a share of the tip imo. The winner just deducts it from the winnings and pays out the net amount.
This was discussed recently.
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Old 03-09-11, 21:17   #31
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Everyone pays a share of the tip imo. The winner just deducts it from the winnings and pays out the net amount.
This was discussed recently.
Sorry had a quick look round the thread and didn't see it
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Sorry had a quick look round the thread and didn't see it
Not sure if this is what Kincem is referring to but there was a little discussion on your point here as a bit of a side issue.

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Quick hypothetical situation seeing as some people are advertising live events...what if someone took down a live tournament and gave a tip? I know that in the states its commonplace but I'll be honest and say that I haven't took one down of any reasonable amount. Would the tip come out of the stakee's money or stakers part or take it out of the winnings and percentage the rest?
I would generally assume that the tip is given then everything is split but that all depends on the person, Dice75 recently sold some action HERE and stated upfront that any tips he would look after.
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I am a semi professiona{ horse racing gamb{er i have on{y been on the site a short time so gonna be hard get trust up....but heres a few winners for 2moro...maybe next time ye wi{{ want a stake in me........ epsom 1.35 hymeniaos 2.1o baitha a{ga 2.4o cirrus des aig{es
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I am a semi professiona{ horse racing gamb{er i have on{y been on the site a short time so gonna be hard get trust up....but heres a few winners for 2moro...maybe next time ye wi{{ want a stake in me........ epsom 1.35 hymeniaos 2.1o baitha a{ga 2.4o cirrus des aig{es
This thread is nearly 2 yrs old, your not going to build Trust by giving out a few horsie tips. Get into the staking/selling threads and apply for any stakes going, giving all the relevant info, if your stats are good enough you will get a shot but tbh it's been quite with a while.
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