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Old 05-03-14, 16:44   #21
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Hi 8611,

We're also very conscious of the fact that we have a lot of older players (like Doke and Mick Mc Closkey ) attending the Irish Open and we don't want to ask them to play any longer than a 12 hour shift on any one day, so we have to take that into account when deciding on the structure.

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Old 11-03-14, 00:37   #22
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Shallower Stack + Faster Blinds = Better Structure.
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Old 09-04-14, 03:29   #23
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PPP, you have got to listen to your customers. Everybody commenting here is saying or implying that they would prefer a bigger starting stack to avoid an early crapshoot and I also agree with them.
As for doing this to cater for the older players, this is ludicrous, condesending and quite frankly insulting. As an " older player " , if I can't compete with the younger guys because the hours are too long then I should give up and not bother competing at all.
I have done a number of 12/15 hour stints in a row, it's the nature of the game.
So, please listen to the players and increase the SS.
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Old 09-04-14, 08:59   #24
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Hi 8611,

We've actually put a lot of thought into this structure and are aware that there is a huge amount of prestige associated with winning the Irish Open Mini, as well as the main event so we want to offer the best possible value for money we can. We're also very conscious of the fact that we have a lot of older players (like Doke and Mick Mc Closkey ) attending the Irish Open and we don't want to ask them to play any longer than a 12 hour shift on any one day, so we have to take that into account when deciding on the structure.

We know that a higher starting stack is viewed as a "better" structure these days but we disagree. It simply adds a different dynamic to a game, especially in the earlier stages.

With a 10,000 starting stack, if a player re-raises to 1,000 in say Level 1, then his/ her raise will force more players to fold than if the starting stack was 15,000 or 20,000. We're not saying one or the other is better, they're just a different tournament format and we believe ours is one where more aggressive players will be rewarded by winning more pots without a showdown (which actually eliminates a lot of the crapshoot factor).

If you want to have a structure where you are going to sit and wait for hours on end against players that are waiting for a lock hand, or can call for value without if affecting their stack in relation to the blinds then there is a huge selection of games available in the live event market these days. If you want a structure that encourages players to make moves, creates action and involves utilising a slightly different strategy to reward good poker play then we offer that with the Irish Open Mini.

To summarise; what we're saying is that the starting stack doesn't actually effect the playability of a structure as much as everyone might believe, it just requires a different strategy to play, rather than one being better or worse.

At the end of the day players will vote with their feet but we had a huge turnout for the first year of the Irish Open Mini last year and we're expecting an even bigger field this year (probably a full house as we'll have far more online qualifiers for the event this year too).

Hope you're all looking forward to what will be one of the best ever Irish Open festivals next Easter.

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This is a complete insult to one of the best, if not the best "grinders" in the game, I cant help but feel you've put your foot in it with that comment, but true gent he is, he prob laughs it off! Very poor Imo paddy power
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Old 09-04-14, 11:54   #25
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This is a complete insult to one of the best, if not the best "grinders" in the game, I cant help but feel you've put your foot in it with that comment, but true gent he is, he prob laughs it off! Very poor Imo paddy power
Think it was a gag mate to be honest. Wouldn't take it to heart as I don't think Doke or Mick would either...
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Old 09-04-14, 14:39   #26
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PPP, you have got to listen to your customers. Everybody commenting here is saying or implying that they would prefer a bigger starting stack to avoid an early crapshoot and I also agree with them.
As for doing this to cater for the older players, this is ludicrous, condesending and quite frankly insulting. As an " older player " , if I can't compete with the younger guys because the hours are too long then I should give up and not bother competing at all.
I have done a number of 12/15 hour stints in a row, it's the nature of the game.
So, please listen to the players and increase the SS.
In the interests of listening to our customers we can see that the vast majority want a bigger stack. We're going to increase this to 15,000 chips with the same clock. Website will be updated shortly.

With regard to players young and old, we love you all (even if you older guys are a bit grouchy ).

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Old 09-04-14, 16:01   #27
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Good decision and shows good flexibility, ppp.
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Old 09-04-14, 16:31   #28
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Are the satellites only on Saturday and where abouts in the client are they can't find them?
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Old 10-04-14, 20:43   #29
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Are the satellites only on Saturday and where abouts in the client are they can't find them?
Irish Open 2014 > Irish Open Mini ... Ä5 R/A is in there alright.
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Old 13-04-14, 12:54   #30
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In the interests of listening to our customers we can see that the vast majority want a bigger stack. We're going to increase this to 15,000 chips with the same clock. Website will be updated shortly.

With regard to players young and old, we love you all (even if you older guys are a bit grouchy ).

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Fair play to ye... I wasn't going to play this because of SS. But am playing now because the increase allows for more plays.

The value is now in
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Old 13-04-14, 14:16   #31
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10k starting stack with 45 minutes levels would have been better though
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Old 13-04-14, 14:31   #32
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10k starting stack with 45 minutes levels would have been better though
No... Just no.
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Old 17-04-14, 21:49   #33
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Credit where it's due for having the courage to review your decisions.
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Old 19-04-14, 20:00   #34
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What time this event start? Someone told me two o'clock but it says 1 on the website.
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Old 19-04-14, 20:02   #35
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What time this event start? Someone told me two o'clock but it says 1 on the website.
It's 2pm. They put it in the main IO thread just underneath this thread.
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Old 20-04-14, 11:25   #36
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What the latest time to buy into this , i don't see any mention.. id love to give it a spin but i cant make it for 2..
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Old 20-04-14, 12:05   #37
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What the latest time to buy into this , i don't see any mention.. id love to give it a spin but i cant make it for 2..
Website says late reg for 4 levels so thats 2hrs after start time.start time though isnt clear.down for 1pm on website and 2pm in other places
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Old 20-04-14, 12:57   #38
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actual start time for this anyone please??
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Old 20-04-14, 12:58   #39
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2pm. I am in the Burlington now. Definitely 2pm
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