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    Originally posted by TommyGunne View Post
    I edited it to explain before I saw your post.
    should have posted a new post, would have gotten two thanks!

    Fucked if I'm bothered doing all that for the sake of an "interesting spot" though

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      Been the most painful winning day i can remember.
      Originally posted by ArmaniJeans
      I like this heat - some proper music innit.
      None of the 'black disabled lesbian warbling backwards' stuff that the other players inflicted on me.

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        I will raise you

        This was yesterday.

        I was close to tears
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          Yeah the swings in Rush can make a grown man cry with ease.
          Originally posted by ArmaniJeans
          I like this heat - some proper music innit.
          None of the 'black disabled lesbian warbling backwards' stuff that the other players inflicted on me.

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            is rush poker still gettin the numbers these days or has the novelty worn off?

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              Rush mistake?

              Did I buthcter this hand. It's from a 135man STT. AVG 7.2k. 37 players left. Rush poker btw.

              Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 4.4 Tournament, 120/240 Blinds (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

              saw flop | saw showdown

              Hero (Button) (t11727)
              SB (t4040)
              BB (t9700)
              UTG (t4483)
              UTG+1 (t3420)
              MP1 (t5066)
              MP2 (t2698)
              MP3 (t4612)
              CO (t6452)

              Hero's M: 32.58

              Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J
              2 folds, MP1 bets t840, 3 folds, Hero raises to t1980, 2 folds, MP1 calls t1140

              Flop: (t4320) 2, A, 4 (2 players)
              MP1 checks, Hero checks

              Turn: (t4320) 6 (2 players)
              MP1 bets t720, Hero calls t720

              River: (t5760) 7 (2 players)
              MP1 bets t1200, Hero folds

              Total pot: t5760

              Results:
              MP1 didn't show
              Outcome: MP1 won t5760


              At the time I just figure the A had killed my hand.

              Does 3bet calling range by unknown villain usually have an ace?

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                Originally posted by Ace View Post
                is rush poker still gettin the numbers these days or has the novelty worn off?
                Im not 100% sure but numbers look a bit smaller to me.
                Still plenty of mega tards around though.
                Originally posted by ArmaniJeans
                I like this heat - some proper music innit.
                None of the 'black disabled lesbian warbling backwards' stuff that the other players inflicted on me.

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                  Ugh, back to 10nl me thinks. This is horrific.
                  5buyins below EV at 25nl hurts so much more than 10nl.

                  Gonna post a load of hands today, not gonna play anymore. I wont look at the hands more than to make sure I'm not just posting a load of coolers, going to post my biggest losers, and hopefully you guys will be able to tell me where to get away from then hand in the future.

                  Gonna open up to take serious flak here, so if a play is retarded in your opinion, slate it. My BR is 50% of what it was 2 weeks ago, so I'm pretty disappointed in my game, play and attitude at the moment.

                  Need a kick up the hole, and will definitely appreciate all criticism.

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                    1Already spotting huge mistakes myself

                    Shove turn?

                    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                    BB ($71.33)
                    UTG ($69.56)
                    MP ($23.44)
                    CO ($43.74)
                    Button ($33.48)
                    Hero (SB) ($80)

                    Preflop: Hero is SB with K, K
                    2 folds, CO bets $0.85, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.50, 1 fold, CO calls $1.65

                    Flop: ($5.25) J, 4, 4 (2 players)
                    Hero bets $3.25, CO calls $3.25

                    Turn: ($11.75) 3 (2 players)
                    Hero bets $6.75, CO raises to $15.50, Hero calls $8.75

                    River: ($42.75) 10 (2 players)
                    Hero bets $58.75 (All-In), CO calls $22.49 (All-In)

                    Total pot: $87.73 | Rake: $3
                    Last edited by Emmet; 29-04-10, 13:56.

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                      2
                      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                      Hero (BB) ($55.31)
                      UTG ($84.61)
                      MP ($37.20)
                      CO ($25.10)
                      Button ($25.25)
                      SB ($56)

                      Preflop: Hero is BB with 4, 4
                      1 fold, MP bets $0.75, 2 folds, SB calls $0.65, Hero calls $0.50

                      Flop: ($2.25) 5, 4, A (3 players)
                      SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $2.25, SB calls $2.25, Hero raises to $7, MP calls $4.75, 1 fold

                      Turn: ($18.50) Q (2 players)
                      Hero bets $10, MP raises to $29.45 (All-In), Hero calls $19.45

                      River: ($77.40) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                      Total pot: $77.40 | Rake: $3
                      Last edited by Emmet; 29-04-10, 13:53.

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                        3
                        Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                        Button ($19.97)
                        SB ($59.54)
                        Hero (BB) ($86.33)
                        UTG ($35.32)
                        MP ($37.56)
                        CO ($33.08)

                        Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, 7
                        UTG bets $0.75, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.50

                        Flop: ($1.60) 10, A, 7 (2 players)
                        Hero checks, UTG bets $1.25, Hero raises to $3.75, UTG raises to $8, Hero raises to $13.25, UTG raises to $34.57 (All-In), Hero calls $21.32

                        Turn: ($70.74) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                        River: ($70.74) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                        Total pot: $70.74 | Rake: $3
                        Last edited by Emmet; 29-04-10, 13:53.

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                          4
                          Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                          SB ($29.44)
                          BB ($11.74)
                          Hero (UTG) ($33.28)
                          MP ($26.76)
                          CO ($35.89)
                          Button ($13.57)

                          Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, A
                          Hero bets $0.80, 1 fold, CO calls $0.80, 1 fold, SB calls $0.70, BB calls $0.55

                          Flop: ($3.20) Q, 8, A (4 players)
                          SB bets $0.25, BB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $3, CO calls $3, 2 folds

                          Turn: ($9.70) 5 (2 players)
                          Hero bets $5.75, CO raises to $32.09 (All-In), Hero calls $23.73 (All-In)

                          River: ($68.66) J (2 players, 2 all-in)

                          Total pot: $68.66 | Rake: $3
                          Last edited by Emmet; 29-04-10, 13:53.

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                            If I could give a bit of advice, Emmet. I think I read earlier that you got 4.5k hands in in one day, and in general seem to get through a sick volume. While that's commendable, and you've no idea how much I envy your workrate, it's probably counterproductive at this stage. If you're still learning and not super comfortable playing at the moment (I've no idea how good or bad you are, so don't read anything into that) and if you aren't relying on getting a certain amount of hands in for withdrawing and stuff like that, I'd really suggest lay off on the volume.

                            Play less tables or play non rush, get far less hands in and try and really think through every hand you play. Spend time you did spend playing reading the theory section here, or the multitude of threads on 2+2, review your hands and review your sessions and do it honestly, don't be afraid to be critical of yourself nobody plays perfectly. Then go back to the tables and like I said, really concentrate on thinking through every hand and try to play a session where you play every hand as good as you can rather than as many hands as you can, soon you'll find your game improved to the extent that you're comfortable enough at the level you're playing at to go back to playing the volume you get in now.

                            That's just random rambling general advice and could be way off for you personally but in general getting in sick volume at lower limits probably just enforces bad habits rather than lets you develop as a player so is usually counterproductive to you improving as a player and moving up etc.
                            "In the world, there are many kings but there is only one God. I am God, I am El Tren" :{)

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                              5
                              Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                              UTG ($31.86)
                              Hero (MP) ($100.76)
                              CO ($25)
                              Button ($28.30)
                              SB ($3.20)
                              BB ($57.67)

                              Preflop: Hero is MP with K, K
                              UTG bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.70, 4 folds, UTG calls $1.20

                              Flop: ($3.75) 3, 4, 6 (2 players)
                              UTG checks, Hero bets $3, UTG calls $3

                              Turn: ($9.75) 10 (2 players)
                              UTG checks, Hero bets $6.50, UTG calls $6.50

                              River: ($22.75) 4 (2 players)
                              UTG checks, Hero bets $89.56 (All-In), UTG calls $20.66 (All-In)

                              Total pot: $64.07 | Rake: $3
                              Last edited by Emmet; 29-04-10, 13:53.

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                                6
                                Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                Hero (UTG) ($57.57)
                                MP ($30.75)
                                CO ($27.78)
                                Button ($97.27)
                                SB ($24.40)
                                BB ($31.29)

                                Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A
                                Hero bets $0.80, MP calls $0.80, 4 folds

                                Flop: ($1.95) 7, 3, K (2 players)
                                Hero bets $1.80, MP raises to $4.68, Hero calls $2.88

                                Turn: ($11.31) 2 (2 players)
                                Hero checks, MP bets $10.25, Hero calls $10.25

                                River: ($31.81) 3 (2 players)
                                Hero checks, MP bets $15.02 (All-In), Hero calls $15.02

                                Total pot: $61.85 | Rake: $3

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                                  7

                                  Do I raise the flop here?

                                  Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                  Button ($30.65)
                                  SB ($33.73)
                                  BB ($27.73)
                                  UTG ($28.84)
                                  MP ($25)
                                  Hero (CO) ($42.51)

                                  Preflop: Hero is CO with J, J
                                  2 folds, Hero bets $0.80, Button raises to $2.25, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.45

                                  Flop: ($4.85) 2, 2, 4 (2 players)
                                  Hero checks, Button bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

                                  Turn: ($9.85) 9 (2 players)
                                  Hero checks, Button bets $6.25, Hero calls $6.25

                                  River: ($22.35) 3 (2 players)
                                  Hero bets $22.35, Button calls $19.65 (All-In)

                                  Total pot: $61.65 | Rake: $3

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                                    8

                                    This is just a cooler, or did I deserve the doom by floating the flop with a nothing hand?

                                    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                    CO ($17.16)
                                    Button ($26.45)
                                    SB ($31.56)
                                    Hero (BB) ($57)
                                    UTG ($29.34)
                                    MP ($59.67)

                                    Preflop: Hero is BB with 2, 2
                                    UTG bets $0.85, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.60

                                    Flop: ($1.80) 3, 7, 5 (2 players)
                                    Hero checks, UTG bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20

                                    Turn: ($4.20) 2 (2 players)
                                    Hero checks, UTG bets $3.25, Hero raises to $8.75, UTG calls $5.50

                                    River: ($21.70) 10 (2 players)
                                    Hero bets $19, UTG calls $18.54 (All-In)

                                    Total pot: $58.78 | Rake: $2.93

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                                      9

                                      Is bet / folding turn here too nitty?

                                      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                      Hero (CO) ($27.82)
                                      Button ($16.40)
                                      SB ($32.72)
                                      BB ($27.68)
                                      UTG ($26.36)
                                      MP ($48.75)

                                      Preflop: Hero is CO with K, K
                                      1 fold, MP calls $0.25, Hero bets $1, 3 folds, MP calls $0.75

                                      Flop: ($2.35) J, 9, 4 (2 players)
                                      MP checks, Hero bets $1.90, MP calls $1.90

                                      Turn: ($6.15) 8 (2 players)
                                      MP checks, Hero bets $4.60, MP raises to $12.25, Hero raises to $24.92 (All-In), MP calls $12.67

                                      River: ($55.99) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                      Total pot: $55.99 | Rake: $2.79

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                                        10

                                        4bet pre? But is it a 4bet and call a push?

                                        River is terrible I think.

                                        Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                        Hero (CO) ($34.31)
                                        Button ($27.15)
                                        SB ($25.10)
                                        BB ($60.83)
                                        UTG ($23.26)
                                        MP ($14.96)

                                        Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, Q
                                        2 folds, Hero bets $0.80, Button raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.20

                                        Flop: ($6.35) 3, 5, J (2 players)
                                        Hero checks, Button bets $3.25, Hero calls $3.25

                                        Turn: ($12.85) 5 (2 players)
                                        Hero checks, Button checks

                                        River: ($12.85) 4 (2 players)
                                        Hero bets $8.25, Button raises to $20.90 (All-In), Hero calls $12.65

                                        Total pot: $54.65 | Rake: $2.73

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                                          11

                                          Is this "standard"? I'm thinking that there are too many hands where I stack off, think "standard cooler", but its not. This is probably not one of them tbh, BBV material.
                                          Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                          BB ($15.96)
                                          UTG ($27.11)
                                          MP ($29.70)
                                          CO ($45.14)
                                          Button ($25)
                                          Hero (SB) ($36.06)

                                          Preflop: Hero is SB with 9, 9
                                          UTG bets $0.85, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.75, 1 fold

                                          Flop: ($1.95) 9, 5, 6 (2 players)
                                          Hero checks, UTG checks

                                          Turn: ($1.95) K (2 players)
                                          Hero checks, UTG bets $1.75, Hero raises to $4.25, UTG raises to $26.26 (All-In), Hero calls $22.01

                                          River: ($54.47) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                          Total pot: $54.47 | Rake: $2.72

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                                            12

                                            This is fine once I bet/Fold the river right? I bet/call far too often when I should be bet/folding

                                            Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                            Button ($29.20)
                                            SB ($44.98)
                                            Hero (BB) ($25.81)
                                            UTG ($29)
                                            MP ($29.52)
                                            CO ($32.26)

                                            Preflop: Hero is BB with 4, 4
                                            2 folds, CO bets $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50

                                            Flop: ($1.60) 7, J, 8 (2 players)
                                            Hero checks, CO checks

                                            Turn: ($1.60) 4 (2 players)
                                            Hero checks, CO bets $1, Hero raises to $3.50, CO calls $2.50

                                            River: ($8.60) 3 (2 players)
                                            Hero bets $5.20, CO raises to $28.01 (All-In), Hero calls $16.36 (All-In)

                                            Total pot: $51.72 | Rake: $2.58

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                                              13

                                              This is beyond brutal. Should I just c/f this flop?

                                              Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                              CO ($2.36)
                                              Button ($16.64)
                                              Hero (SB) ($25.10)
                                              BB ($27.24)
                                              UTG ($21.60)
                                              MP ($15.25)

                                              Preflop: Hero is SB with A, K
                                              4 folds, Hero bets $0.70, BB raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $5.75, BB calls $3.25

                                              Flop: ($11.50) 8, 10, 5 (2 players)
                                              Hero bets $4, BB raises to $21.49 (All-In), Hero calls $15.35 (All-In)

                                              Turn: ($50.20) 2 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                              River: ($50.20) 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                              Total pot: $50.20 | Rake: $2.51

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                                                14
                                                This is exactly what I mean by thinking "standard", is this standard??

                                                Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                BB ($10)
                                                UTG ($25)
                                                MP ($39.98)
                                                CO ($25)
                                                Button ($63.24)
                                                Hero (SB) ($48.90)

                                                Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q
                                                2 folds, CO bets $0.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.30, 1 fold, CO raises to $6.75, Hero raises to $48.90 (All-In), CO calls $18.25 (All-In)

                                                Flop: ($50.25) 5, J, 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                                Turn: ($50.25) J (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                                River: ($50.25) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                                Total pot: $50.25 | Rake: $2.51

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                                                  15

                                                  Another case of river being a b/f and I refuse to let it go? Or is this ok?

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                                                  BB ($13.40)
                                                  UTG ($25)
                                                  MP ($25)
                                                  CO ($13.72)
                                                  Button ($20.66)
                                                  Hero (SB) ($48.72)

                                                  Preflop: Hero is SB with 7, 8
                                                  1 fold, MP bets $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.65, 1 fold

                                                  Flop: ($1.75) 5, 4, 8 (2 players)
                                                  Hero checks, MP bets $1, Hero calls $1

                                                  Turn: ($3.75) 4 (2 players)
                                                  Hero checks, MP bets $3, Hero calls $3

                                                  River: ($9.75) 6 (2 players)
                                                  Hero bets $7.30, MP raises to $20.25 (All-In), Hero calls $12.95

                                                  Total pot: $50.25 | Rake: $2.51

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                                                    Appreciate if anyone can destroy or confirm any of my thoughts on the hands above. Realise there's a lot there, but am pretty devastated after what had started out as such a good month.

                                                    Thank fuck for rakeback and the bonus, otherwise I'd be in even worse form.
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                                                      Sledgejammer's advice is good imo, swap some of your volume for reading theory forums and watching vids and your winrate will go way up and you won't be as susceptible to tilt/burnout.

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                                                        1) Why do you donk the river, are you turning your hand into a bluff? Either he has a better hand than you and he'll call anyway or he has a bluff and he'll fold. I'm not actually sure whether you should shove turn, call and call or just fold, kinda tough spot given your deep. I'd prob call/call. Don't call and lead tho that makes no sense.

                                                        2) stats would help but that obv a cooler.

                                                        3) cooler

                                                        4) cooler

                                                        5) cooler

                                                        6) fold turn (sigh didnt see we had ac, call and prob fold river)

                                                        7) stats again would be helpful here because you can obv 4bet call if appropriate. Calling's cool too tho. Possibly fold turn, again are you turning your hand into a bluff? Don't donk the river and fold if he shoves.

                                                        8) flops bad, fold. Rest of its a cooler

                                                        9) Bet fold turn

                                                        10) You really need stats for these pre decisions, i mean 4bet call is obv standard most of the time but if he's a low stakes rush nit of which there are many then it might be bad. I like your line post actually and the river is kinda tough as i have no idea why he would want to check the turn with a hand better than yours. I mean he basically reps 67, i'd prob spite call and expect to lose.

                                                        11) cooler

                                                        12) ugh, nasty but ye bet/fold is prob right.

                                                        13) Well certainly don't bet call the flop, betting is prob not the worst thing but bet/fold

                                                        14) Need stats, prob standard.

                                                        15) Gay, prob fold has played but id prob check call the river. (Actually i change my mind, leading is prob fine since he won't value bet overpairs on that river so do lead but certainly fold to shove)

                                                        You're running pretty bad but you need to have more info on opponents for some of the decisions you're making because a lot of those pre spots become very marginal against the wrong type of opponent. Maybe don't play rush, as attractive as a prospect as it is for getting hands in.
                                                        Last edited by colquhom; 29-04-10, 14:40.

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                                                          1 - Yeah i shove turn but im happy getting the money in on the river
                                                          2 - Standard
                                                          3 - Standard
                                                          4 - Standard
                                                          5 - Standard
                                                          6 - I might 3bet the flop here, doubt im folding at any stage.
                                                          7 - Dont like the river shove here at all, id c/c of c/f depending on reads.
                                                          8 - Hate the check call oop here with an underpair, once you get to the turn im never folding.
                                                          9 - I stack off there more than likely
                                                          10 - If you 4bet you have to call a shove. I might c/c river or else b/f once he raises i think your toast
                                                          11 - I lead the flop here because theres too many awful turn cards. Once he checks back the flop defo bet the turn. Obv dont fold.
                                                          12 - Probably a b/f on the river, depends on reads again.
                                                          13 - Pre is fine, id bet flop the flop for 6.70.
                                                          14 - Probably have to stack off but ranges are tighter in Rush as you obv know
                                                          15 - I fold pre cause im a nit oop. Im not folding at any stage after that.

                                                          Are you using a hud on Rush??

                                                          A lot of your bet sizing is too small imo, especially on the turn and some of your check raises.
                                                          Last edited by Starvin Marvin; 29-04-10, 14:32.
                                                          Originally posted by ArmaniJeans
                                                          I like this heat - some proper music innit.
                                                          None of the 'black disabled lesbian warbling backwards' stuff that the other players inflicted on me.

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                                                            ok emmet just had a look though hands 12 onwards

                                                            i think 12 is totally standard, though their is an arguement for check-call river

                                                            hand 13 i sorry but you totally butchered this hand its an easy fold once your c bet gets raised, you seem to be getting to attached to hands you can get away cheaply from

                                                            hand 14 no i dont think think this is standard, but you have had been playing with the villian for x amout of time, so maybe you have read on him, but to me he has either aa or aa or maybe if hes a weak/ loose player he has ak, i would fold when he 5 bets you all in

                                                            hand 15 again i go back to the point i made in hand 12 about getting to attached, your only beating total air on river i favour check -fold in this spot

                                                            hope this is helpful emmet

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                                                              wrt the HUD on rush. This is all the info that I have available to me at the time of making decisions.
                                                              VPIP: 18 PFR: 13 STL: 29 3BT: 4
                                                              AGGF: 2.43 CBET: 72 F2CBET: 53 Hands: 897
                                                              I'm using the "FTP Rush Notes Export" option on HEM, which puts this info in the players FTP notes, its the only reads I have on any players.

                                                              Darren, I rivered a straight in 15...

                                                              I accept that 12 is more than brutal, I toyed with not putting it up, but decided it was better to put it up so that people may be able to get an overall read on my from a few hands, not just ones that were coolers.

                                                              I completely accept the problem with letting go of "big" hands, I think that call was a spite call tbh with you. Is the flop there a b/f or a c/f though?

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                                                                You do know HEM hud works with Rush now, the proper real time hud.
                                                                Originally posted by ArmaniJeans
                                                                I like this heat - some proper music innit.
                                                                None of the 'black disabled lesbian warbling backwards' stuff that the other players inflicted on me.

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                                                                  sorry just had a quick glance at 15, my mistake

                                                                  as regards to the other hand i think its a c/f as i dont see the villain doing anything else other than raising as hes playing the hand quite strong imo

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                                                                    Originally posted by Starvin Marvin View Post
                                                                    You do know HEM hud works with Rush now, the proper real time hud.
                                                                    not my one, I'm using a, ahem, unofficial one.

                                                                    Scratch that, going to get it sorted now, and get the real deal. Its more than worth the $$

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                                                                      Originally posted by emmet02 View Post
                                                                      not my one, I'm using a, ahem, unofficial one.

                                                                      Scratch that, going to get it sorted now, and get the real deal. Its more than worth the $$
                                                                      Ahhh.

                                                                      Yeah i would, it makes a lot of decisions far easier when you have updated numbers on everyone.
                                                                      Originally posted by ArmaniJeans
                                                                      I like this heat - some proper music innit.
                                                                      None of the 'black disabled lesbian warbling backwards' stuff that the other players inflicted on me.

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                                                                        1. Yes yes yes a thousand times yes, shove the turn.

                                                                        2. Fine

                                                                        3. Fine.

                                                                        4. Meh, yeah it's fine.

                                                                        5. Fine.

                                                                        6. Get em in on the flop.

                                                                        7. Hate hate the river bet. Close your eyes and check/call.

                                                                        8. Don't float at this level. There's too many players who don't know they should fold when you make your move.

                                                                        9. Ugh spot, probably worth a thread of it's own.

                                                                        10. 4bet pre depends on opponent's 3bet stat at this level. Some players are happy to get AK in pre and other's aren't. I would get them in and be ok with it if his 3bet is 5 or higher. Not 100% sure if this is a good guideline, but it's a place to start.

                                                                        11. Fine. I might donk the flop if opponent's cbet stat is low.

                                                                        12. I would check/call but I see why you would bet/fold.

                                                                        13. I'm never really sure what to do here. If you lead the flop this small without intending to call a shove then that's bad. The idea is that you induce a bluff, is it not?

                                                                        14. Again depends on the opponent at these stakes.

                                                                        15. I would really struggle to find a fold here.

                                                                        Edit: Misread hand 7
                                                                        Last edited by AndyFatBastard; 29-04-10, 15:54.
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                                                                          1) Shove turn

                                                                          2) Fine imo

                                                                          3) Fine

                                                                          4) Against some guys this could be a fold but I think a call is fine.

                                                                          5) Ok

                                                                          6) Fold turn

                                                                          7) I don't know why you decided to turn your hand into a bluff on the river but I think the turn is a pretty awkward spot. I'd probably fold turn. Raising the flop would be bad given that he'll continue with worse on the turn if you flat the flop.

                                                                          8) Floating with 22 is really bad. Use hands like 2 overs+bd fds, gutters+bd fds to float. Even if you have specific reads that he'll cbet lots to fold the turn there are better spots to float than this.

                                                                          9) I ran some equities and you're a slight dog against a range of J9, JT, AJ+fd, QT+fd. I think this is pretty tight between bet/3betting and bet/folding but I'm completely open to correction on this as I'm not sure. Reads would definitely help.

                                                                          10) Calling pre is fine readless against a button 3better. He reps basically only 67 and your hand is underrepped so I'd call.

                                                                          11) Completely standard

                                                                          12) This is a weird enough spot. I think c/cing is best as I don't think he calls with his pairs given he never has a jack and he might decide bluff sometimes.

                                                                          13) I think I'd check the flop. Your betsize looks really weak as it looks like you've sized it so you can fold to a shove imo. I'd like it if you had hearts, KK or AA. Betting for 7 would be awful imo as he never calls a 4bet to fold that flop.

                                                                          14) Is fine.

                                                                          15) Think colquhom got it right, b/f to get value from overpairs and 4s but best case scenario you're chopping here when he shoves.

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                                                                            Haven't looked at responses cos it took me too long just to go through my own

                                                                            1: Pretty gay. I'd make it 25c more preflop anyway. Turn is fine I guess. Much better than shoving it in anyway. River donk is awful. Its pretty clear you should be either c/c or c/f. I'd c/c cos I don't like folding.
                                                                            2: Fine
                                                                            3: Fine. I like your almost CiB.
                                                                            4: Fine
                                                                            5: I'd 3bet to 2 here over a mr. Rest of the hand is fine I guess. Might make itt a few more cents on the turn so river is slightly smaller.
                                                                            6: Fold turn. You can try get it in on the flop if you want though, and I probably would.
                                                                            7: I have no idea what you are doing. Raising the flop would be lol bad. You really want to get your stack in there? I should hope that you don't. You might be able to fold turn, and against some guys I would, if they weren't aggro. Donking river is awesomely bad. What exactly does that achieve? Stop taking that line of donking rivers. Its nonsensical in almost all scenarios.
                                                                            8: Fold flop. Don't float with like no equity, especially vs UTG there. You do have equity if he was LP, but he's not.
                                                                            9: I'd b/f I think. Against some guys i'd get it in.
                                                                            10: I'd be 4b/c pre. I don't know what this means "But is it a 4bet and call a push?" If you 4b QQ pre you are obv calling a push. I'd be snap 4betting here and being very happy. I'd be raising flop too. Might just minraise/call a shove, or shove myself, and hope he turns up with random jacks enough. I don't mind a call too much though. River is pretty gay. I'd bet smaller for one. I guess folding isn't terrible, but I guess calling isn't either. Its so read dependant. I think I just call and hope he bluffs enough crap there to make up for the times he has 5x, 67, JJ+.
                                                                            11: Standard. I like your turn c/r.
                                                                            12: I really don't like your turn c/r here. It gets checked back far too often. I defo fold river FWIW. Betting the river is fine though.
                                                                            13: I'd c/f most of the time tbh. I hate calling once you've bet too. I really don't like betting here though.
                                                                            14: Standard
                                                                            15: I'd fold pre. I fold turn too. Why are you donking river again? In fairness this is probably the best of the spots you've done it in though. I'd fold to the raise though, and I would have bet a lot smaller.
                                                                            Foldaramus et foldarabimus

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                                                                              Hey new to the site but ill give ya feedback on those hands.


                                                                              1. shove turn
                                                                              2. might have led flop other than that as played.
                                                                              3. again might have led flop but as played
                                                                              4. as played
                                                                              5. as played
                                                                              6. raise flop
                                                                              7. raise flop prob fold to 4 bet
                                                                              8. as played
                                                                              9. as played b/f turn is too nitty in my book
                                                                              10. 4 bet pre to 8 and call a push.
                                                                              11. bet flop otherwise as played
                                                                              12. lead turn maybe. as played fold river just
                                                                              13. yeah prob c/f flop considering pf action
                                                                              14. as played
                                                                              15. as played he could easily have 77 or gone crazy with ak

                                                                              good luck

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                                                                                My 6max and HU stats seem to be merging on HEM and i cant find an answer on the HEM forums, any ideas?

                                                                                EDIT: Nevermind i found it, you just have to select winning summary from the drop down menu.
                                                                                Last edited by BlindLimper; 29-04-10, 20:20.

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                                                                                  finally got round to gettin omaha HM, played 1215 hands last nite - all 6 max (not much but meh)

                                                                                  Over this sample i am + 1.5 buyins
                                                                                  My EV is + 1.5 buyins
                                                                                  My Showdown winnings are +15 buyins
                                                                                  My Non Showdown winnings are - 12 buyins.

                                                                                  does this mean that when i'm called on the river i have the goods???

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                                                                                    Originally posted by Ace View Post
                                                                                    finally got round to gettin omaha HM, played 1215 hands last nite - all 6 max (not much but meh)

                                                                                    Over this sample i am + 1.5 buyins
                                                                                    My EV is + 1.5 buyins
                                                                                    My Showdown winnings are +15 buyins
                                                                                    My Non Showdown winnings are - 12 buyins.

                                                                                    does this mean that when i'm called on the river i have the goods???
                                                                                    Yeah pretty much. Losing a buyin w/o SD per 100 hands is absolutely enormous though. Normally I wouldn't say anything about losing w/o SD if a person is winning money, but thats as negative a slope as I've seen.

                                                                                    What sort of VPIP/pfr do you play?
                                                                                    Foldaramus et foldarabimus

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                                                                                      looser than my holdem stats

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                                                                                        This hand tilted me. Villain is 35/16/0.9. Thoughts on turn in particular. I'd dump a lot of hands to a min-raise here v this guy but seeing as I have a fking set and all... Should I just get it in? I think he can have stone cold nuts/sets/2pair/pair to see where he's at/other random hands. I mean wtf can someone min raise turn with on that board. I decide to b/f river. The is 70 in there and we have 100 behind. Can I bet 50 and fold? I dont trust myself lol so i bet 1/2 pot

                                                                                        No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                                                        SB ($102.50)
                                                                                        UTG ($137.24)
                                                                                        Hero (MP) ($136.23)
                                                                                        BB ($35)
                                                                                        Button ($215.77)
                                                                                        CO ($170.18)

                                                                                        Preflop: Hero is MP with 6, 6
                                                                                        1 fold, Hero bets $3, 1 fold, Button calls $3, 2 folds

                                                                                        Flop: ($7.50) 6, J, 8 (2 players)
                                                                                        Hero bets $5, Button calls $5

                                                                                        Turn: ($17.50) 10 (2 players)
                                                                                        Hero bets $13, Button raises $26, Hero calls $13

                                                                                        River: ($69.50) K (2 players)
                                                                                        Hero bets $34, Button calls $34

                                                                                        Total pot: $137.50

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                                                                                          Yeah get them in on the turn. Only Q9, bigger sets and the unlikely 79 has you beat and you've got bags of outs to a full house if he's got the straight. But his range almost entirely consists of draws, so get em in while you're ahead.
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                                                                                            ?

                                                                                            Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                                                            UTG ($32.44)
                                                                                            MP ($41.81)
                                                                                            CO ($22.06)
                                                                                            Button ($90.07)
                                                                                            SB ($23.12)
                                                                                            Hero (BB) ($33.86)

                                                                                            Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, 6
                                                                                            UTG bets $0.85, 1 fold, CO calls $0.85, Button calls $0.85, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.60

                                                                                            Flop: ($3.50) 6, 3, 2 (4 players)
                                                                                            Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Button bets $2.50, Hero raises to $6.50, 2 folds, Button calls $4

                                                                                            Turn: ($16.50) Q (2 players)
                                                                                            Hero bets $6, Button calls $6

                                                                                            River: ($28.50) K (2 players)
                                                                                            Hero checks, Button checks

                                                                                            Total pot: $28.50 | Rake: $1.42

                                                                                            Vs a 26/19 player with AF 2.5 (Only 60 hands)

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                                                                                              Looks like a bigger flush draw or possibly 77-99, Emmett. I like your turn bet. Did he tank it or call quickly? I'd probably fire a decent chunk at that river, probably $18+, he has to fold so much of his range.
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                                                                                                Turn bet was to set up pot for a shove if I catch a whiff of it.

                                                                                                Its shove or fold though, I only have $20 behind.

                                                                                                I hate bluff shoving in raised pots, as I always wonder how the fuck they thought that they were able to call with 62nd pair and be good.

                                                                                                Is this a good spot to shove though?

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                                                                                                  I think is a great shove spot!

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                                                                                                    Originally posted by RoadSweeper View Post
                                                                                                    I think is a great shove spot!
                                                                                                    thanks

                                                                                                    Curse me for being a wuss.

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                                                                                                      Yeah looking at it again I really think you wussed out there. Oh well.
                                                                                                      "I can’t find anyone who agrees with what I write or think these days, so I guess I must be getting closer to the truth." - Hunter S. Thompson

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                                                                                                        Just for a Kudos, you nailed his hand Andy.

                                                                                                        88

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                                                                                                          Yeah I jam as well emmet.
                                                                                                          Foldaramus et foldarabimus

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                                                                                                            Originally posted by emmet02 View Post
                                                                                                            ?

                                                                                                            Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                                                                            UTG ($32.44)
                                                                                                            MP ($41.81)
                                                                                                            CO ($22.06)
                                                                                                            Button ($90.07)
                                                                                                            SB ($23.12)
                                                                                                            Hero (BB) ($33.86)

                                                                                                            Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, 6
                                                                                                            UTG bets $0.85, 1 fold, CO calls $0.85, Button calls $0.85, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.60

                                                                                                            Flop: ($3.50) 6, 3, 2 (4 players)
                                                                                                            Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Button bets $2.50, Hero raises to $6.50, 2 folds, Button calls $4

                                                                                                            Turn: ($16.50) Q (2 players)
                                                                                                            Hero bets $6, Button calls $6

                                                                                                            River: ($28.50) K (2 players)
                                                                                                            Hero checks, Button checks

                                                                                                            Total pot: $28.50 | Rake: $1.42

                                                                                                            Vs a 26/19 player with AF 2.5 (Only 60 hands)
                                                                                                            Shoving here is what makes your red line rocket.

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                                                                                                              Originally posted by digiman View Post
                                                                                                              Shoving here is what makes your red line rocket.
                                                                                                              interestingly its what makes my blue line plunge. Flush draw didnt get there. CAWLZ.

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                                                                                                                Folding here is fine?

                                                                                                                Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                                                                                BB ($10)
                                                                                                                UTG ($6.14)
                                                                                                                MP ($10)
                                                                                                                CO ($15.50)
                                                                                                                Hero (Button) ($15.95)
                                                                                                                SB ($3.70)

                                                                                                                Preflop: Hero is Button with A, K
                                                                                                                UTG bets $0.20, MP raises to $0.90, CO calls $0.90, Hero raises to $2, 3 folds, MP calls $1.10, CO calls $1.10

                                                                                                                Flop: ($6.35) Q, 4, A (3 players)
                                                                                                                MP bets $8 (All-In), CO raises to $13.50 (All-In), Hero folds

                                                                                                                Turn: ($22.35) 3 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                                                                                                River: ($22.35) 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                                                                                                Total pot: $22.35 | Rake: $1.49


                                                                                                                Also, 4bet was supposed to be to 2.40, dont know why table ninja dropped it to 2.

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                                                                                                                  Prob need reads to comment on cold 4 bet. I fold flop as well.

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                                                                                                                    Defo fold flop.

                                                                                                                    People only raise monotone boards at this level with very very strong hands.
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                                                                                                                    All efforts were made to make this thought original but with the abundance of thoughts in the world the originality of this thought cannot be guaranteed.
                                                                                                                    The author is not liable for any issue arising from the platitudinous nature of this post.

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                                                                                                                      $1/$2 No Limit Holdem
                                                                                                                      2 Players
                                                                                                                      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

                                                                                                                      Stacks:
                                                                                                                      SB ($200)
                                                                                                                      pauricmcb ($216)

                                                                                                                      Pre-Flop: ($3, 2 players) pauricmcb is BB 4:club: 4:diamond:
                                                                                                                      SB raises to $4, pauricmcb calls $2

                                                                                                                      Flop: A:diamond: 4:heart: K:club: ($8, 2 players)
                                                                                                                      pauricmcb bets $4, SB raises to $12, pauricmcb raises to $33, SB calls $21

                                                                                                                      Turn: 7:heart: ($74, 2 players)
                                                                                                                      pauricmcb bets $52, SB goes all-in $163, pauricmcb calls $111

                                                                                                                      River: 5:spade: ($400, 2 players, 1 all-in)

                                                                                                                      Final Pot: $400
                                                                                                                      SB shows
                                                                                                                      Q:heart: 7:diamond:

                                                                                                                      pauricmcb wins $399 (net +$199)

                                                                                                                      SB lost $200

                                                                                                                      I must have some ridic bad image, this guy was a reg that sat in with me at a 6max table I was trying to start!! Starting new tables can be amazing at times especially if you can play a bit of HU.

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                                                                                                                        last 60k hands have been rough, or so I thought.

                                                                                                                        I thought I'd been playing ok overall, and was running kind of rough. Filtered my results by position, and realised that I am losing a shitload in the blinds, and winning fine everywhere else.

                                                                                                                        I'm thinking that this could well be something that has always been going on, that I struggle hugely OOP, and reading players poorly when I'm OOP too.

                                                                                                                        Anybody got any good articles / videos I should be looking at for blind play?

                                                                                                                        I'm obviously beyond poor in the blinds compared to everywhere else.

                                                                                                                        FWIW, my overall stats (150k) hands, which includes lots and lots of recreational poker, have similar bb/100 per position

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                                                                                                                          Emmet, attack limped pots from BB. Look at your aggression stats from there. Same with sb the times you limp. This is also good for your non SD winnings if that turns you on.

                                                                                                                          3bet the button more (most profitable position). It should be higher than sb and bb 3bet and it is v difficult to play versus.

                                                                                                                          Open more in CO(imo)

                                                                                                                          Regarding the blinds, you obv lose from there anyway. Maybe someone can give figures on what is okay and what needs to be shored up. I havent looked at my sb stats in ages.

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