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    Turbo $700 Sat Endgame

    Just looking for some thoughts on this hand in particular. Its a turbo $700 qual with the following payouts with 3 left and we are at 3k-6k with 600A.

    1. $10.77k package
    2. $10.77k package
    3. $1.05k

    2 hands ago Big Huni has lost the chip lead by shoving KJ on SB into AA of inductive on BB. Very next hand Big Huni shoves his 35k from the button and I pass my BB of J6s. Big Huni is VP24/PR23/3B15/CB100 for 107 hands, inductive is VP20/PR20/3B11/CB60 for 128 hands I'm VP24/PR20/3B15/CB for the last 107. The last few orbits ive been pretty passive from my button and overall playing pretty TAG. Only real hand of note in recent orbits was 5 hands previous Timex shoved A8 4 handed from UTG and I called with A10 from the SB to bring us to 3 handed.

    $665+$35 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (3000/6000)
    Table '1367799437 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: inductive (205226 in chips)
    Seat 8: Hero (115413 in chips)
    Seat 9: Big Huni (49361 in chips)
    inductive: posts the ante 600
    Hero: posts the ante 600
    Big Huni: posts the ante 600
    Hero: posts small blind 3000
    Big Huni: posts big blind 6000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Qd 6c]
    inductive: folds
    Hero: raises 108813 to 114813 and is all-in
    Big Huni: calls 42761 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (66052) returned to Hero
    *** FLOP *** [Td Ts 3d]
    *** TURN *** [Td Ts 3d] [Kd]
    *** RIVER *** [Td Ts 3d Kd] [Ah]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Hero: shows [Qd 6c] (a pair of Tens)
    Big Huni: shows [Jc Ks] (two pair, Kings and Tens)
    Big Huni collected 99322 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 99322 | Rake 0
    Board [Td Ts 3d Kd Ah]
    Seat 1: inductive (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: Hero (small blind) showed [Qd 6c] and lost with a pair of Tens
    Seat 9: Big Huni (big blind) showed [Jc Ks] and won (99322) with two pair, Kings and Tens

    Theres a follow on hand that is a part II of this but would appreciate thoughts on the above one first cheers
    Last edited by Irisheman; 10-11-15, 08:30.

    #2
    Originally posted by Irisheman View Post
    Just looking for some thoughts on this hand in particular. Its a turbo $700 qual with the following payouts with 3 left and we are at 3k-6k with 600A.

    1. $10.77k package
    2. $10.77k package
    3. $1.05k

    2 hands ago Big Huni has lost the chip lead by shoving KJ on SB into AA of inductive on BB. Very next hand Big Huni shoves his 35k from the button and I pass my BB of J6s. Big Huni is VP24/PR23/3B15/CB100 for 107 hands, inductive is VP20/PR20/3B11/CB60 for 128 hands I'm VP24/PR20/3B15/CB for the last 107. The last few orbits ive been pretty passive from my button and overall playing pretty TAG. Only real hand of note in recent orbits was 5 hands previous Timex shoved A8 4 handed from UTG and I called with A10 from the SB to bring us to 3 handed.

    $665+$35 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (3000/6000)
    Table '1367799437 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: inductive (205226 in chips)
    Seat 8: Hero (115413 in chips)
    Seat 9: Big Huni (49361 in chips)
    inductive: posts the ante 600
    Hero: posts the ante 600
    Big Huni: posts the ante 600
    Hero: posts small blind 3000
    Big Huni: posts big blind 6000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Qd 6c]
    inductive: folds
    Hero: raises 108813 to 114813 and is all-in
    Big Huni: calls 42761 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (66052) returned to Hero
    *** FLOP *** [Td Ts 3d]
    *** TURN *** [Td Ts 3d] [Kd]
    *** RIVER *** [Td Ts 3d Kd] [Ah]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Hero: shows [Qd 6c] (a pair of Tens)
    Big Huni: shows [Jc Ks] (two pair, Kings and Tens)
    Big Huni collected 99322 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 99322 | Rake 0
    Board [Td Ts 3d Kd Ah]
    Seat 1: inductive (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: Hero (small blind) showed [Qd 6c] and lost with a pair of Tens
    Seat 9: Big Huni (big blind) showed [Jc Ks] and won (99322) with two pair, Kings and Tens

    Theres a follow on hand that is a part II of this but would appreciate thoughts on the above one first cheers
    Nash is to shove 22+,Ax,Kx,Q2s+,Q3o+,.............................. .54o,42s+ so nothing wrong here!

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      #3
      You can shove pretty light there but I think Q6o is too light, I ran the numbers quickly in icmizer and it has you shoving Q8o at a minimum (so you aren't a million miles away)

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        #4
        Thanks lads

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          #5
          Exit hand

          The Part II I was ment to post

          $665+$35 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (3000/6000) - 2015/11/09 1:32:59 WET [2015/11/08 20:32:59 ET]
          Table '1367799437 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
          Seat 1: inductive (204626 in chips)
          Seat 8: Hero (66052 in chips)
          Seat 9: Big Huni (99322 in chips)
          inductive: posts the ante 600
          Hero: posts the ante 600
          Big Huni: posts the ante 600
          Big Huni: posts small blind 3000
          inductive: posts big blind 6000
          *** HOLE CARDS ***
          Dealt to Hero [4d Kh]
          Hero: raises 59452 to 65452 and is all-in
          Big Huni: raises 33270 to 98722 and is all-in
          inductive: folds
          Uncalled bet (33270) returned to Big Huni
          *** FLOP *** [8d Qd Js]
          *** TURN *** [8d Qd Js] [8c]
          *** RIVER *** [8d Qd Js 8c] [Qs]
          *** SHOW DOWN ***
          Big Huni: shows [Qh Ah] (a full house, Queens full of Eights)
          Hero: shows [4d Kh] (two pair, Queens and Eights)
          Big Huni collected 138704 from pot
          Hero finished the tournament in 3rd place and received $1050.00.
          inductive finished the tournament in 1st place and received $1002.00.
          inductive wins an entry to tournament #1309254652
          Big Huni finished the tournament in 1st place and received $1002.00.
          Big Huni wins an entry to tournament #1309254652
          *** SUMMARY ***
          Total pot 138704 | Rake 0
          Board [8d Qd Js 8c Qs]
          Seat 1: inductive (big blind) folded before Flop
          Seat 8: Hero (button) showed [4d Kh] and lost with two pair, Queens and Eights
          Seat 9: Big Huni (small blind) showed [Qh Ah] and won (138704) with a full house, Queens full of Eights
          Last edited by Irisheman; 17-11-15, 00:55.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Irisheman View Post
            The Part II I was ment to post

            $665+$35 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (3000/6000) - 2015/11/09 1:32:59 WET [2015/11/08 20:32:59 ET]
            Table '1367799437 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
            Seat 1: inductive (204626 in chips)
            Seat 8: Hero (66052 in chips)
            Seat 9: Big Huni (99322 in chips)
            inductive: posts the ante 600
            Hero: posts the ante 600
            Big Huni: posts the ante 600
            Big Huni: posts small blind 3000
            inductive: posts big blind 6000
            *** HOLE CARDS ***
            Dealt to Hero [4d Kh]
            Hero: raises 59452 to 65452 and is all-in
            Big Huni: raises 33270 to 98722 and is all-in
            inductive: folds
            Uncalled bet (33270) returned to Big Huni
            *** FLOP *** [8d Qd Js]
            *** TURN *** [8d Qd Js] [8c]
            *** RIVER *** [8d Qd Js 8c] [Qs]
            *** SHOW DOWN ***
            Big Huni: shows [Qh Ah] (a full house, Queens full of Eights)
            Hero: shows [4d Kh] (two pair, Queens and Eights)
            Big Huni collected 138704 from pot
            Hero finished the tournament in 3rd place and received $1050.00.
            inductive finished the tournament in 1st place and received $1002.00.
            inductive wins an entry to tournament #1309254652
            Big Huni finished the tournament in 1st place and received $1002.00.
            Big Huni wins an entry to tournament #1309254652
            *** SUMMARY ***
            Total pot 138704 | Rake 0
            Board [8d Qd Js 8c Qs]
            Seat 1: inductive (big blind) folded before Flop
            Seat 8: Hero (button) showed [4d Kh] and lost with two pair, Queens and Eights
            Seat 9: Big Huni (small blind) showed [Qh Ah] and won (138704) with a full house, Queens full of Eights
            This is too wide by quite a bit. By quick ICM calcs(may be slightly off) K9o is a slightly bad shove here. No offence but if you plan on playing these stakes sats profitably you really need to know your shoving ranges inside out, or at least have software running so you can check mid hand! Otherwise you're burning money. I prefer Holdem Resources to ICMiser if ya wanna check that out!

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              #7
              Originally posted by EVinfiinity View Post
              This is too wide by quite a bit. By quick ICM calcs(may be slightly off) K9o is a slightly bad shove here. No offence but if you plan on playing these stakes sats profitably you really need to know your shoving ranges inside out, or at least have software running so you can check mid hand! Otherwise you're burning money. I prefer Holdem Resources to ICMiser if ya wanna check that out!
              Pretty sure i shove any King here & Q7+

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                #8
                Originally posted by Dice75 View Post
                Pretty sure i shove any King here & Q7+
                Did you run calcs? Mine might have been off as I quickly ran i through online icmiser

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                  #9
                  I ran it through last night and came up with K10o+. this hand followed immediately after the Q6o SB shove hand. The pay jump between 2nd and 3rd was circa 9.5k hence after falling to 3rd place I panic shoved far too light. The Q6o hand is very marginal, this hand is just inexcusable even with the background info above


                  Originally posted by EVinfiinity View Post
                  This is too wide by quite a bit. By quick ICM calcs(may be slightly off) K9o is a slightly bad shove here. No offence but if you plan on playing these stakes sats profitably you really need to know your shoving ranges inside out, or at least have software running so you can check mid hand! Otherwise you're burning money. I prefer Holdem Resources to ICMiser if ya wanna check that out!

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                    #10
                    Nope they look ok

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                    QUOTE=EVinfiinity;936068]Did you run calcs? Mine might have been off as I quickly ran i through online icmiser[/QUOTE]

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by EVinfiinity View Post
                      Did you run calcs? Mine might have been off as I quickly ran i through online icmiser
                      No chance. Me have King me shuv is about the size of dices thinking there. Def agree with EVin tho about playing these without knowing the correct shuving ranges, pretty obv were going to be a dog v these calibar of regs but without even knowing what we should and shouldn't shuv it's extremely optimistic regging these games.

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                        #12
                        Yeah was certainly up against it looking at the FT after. I satted in via a $27 feeder. Don't worry I wouldnt reg direct

                        But I did bust Timex which was pretty cool!

                        Originally posted by IPBYOUSAY View Post
                        No chance. Me have King me shuv is about the size of dices thinking there. Def agree with EVin tho about playing these without knowing the correct shuving ranges, pretty obv were going to be a dog v these calibar of regs but without even knowing what we should and shouldn't shuv it's extremely optimistic regging these games.
                        Last edited by Irisheman; 17-11-15, 13:59.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Irisheman View Post
                          Yeah was certainly up against it looking at the FT after. I satted in via a $27 feeder. Don't worry I wouldnt reg direct

                          But I did bust Timex which was pretty cool!
                          That's good never go full degen!

                          Also now i realise this was a thinly veiled 'i bust timex thread'. Well done sir!

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by IPBYOUSAY View Post
                            No chance. Me have King me shuv is about the size of dices thinking there. Def agree with EVin tho about playing these without knowing the correct shuving ranges, pretty obv were going to be a dog v these calibar of regs but without even knowing what we should and shouldn't shuv it's extremely optimistic regging these games.
                            Actually you are correct. I misread the hand and thought the big stacked had folded to us. Its a fold.

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                              #15
                              Lol, my days of full degen are over haha.

                              Well tbh once we were down to 3 I thought great have this; then these two hands happened. My general sat play would be to fold both these spots (I know the Q6o is very close) but I really played the K4 hand terribly. Shame sigh...

                              Originally posted by EVinfiinity View Post
                              That's good never go full degen!

                              Also now i realise this was a thinly veiled 'i bust timex thread'. Well done sir!
                              Last edited by Irisheman; 17-11-15, 14:24.

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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Irisheman View Post
                                Yeah was certainly up against it looking at the FT after. I satted in via a $27 feeder. Don't worry I wouldnt reg direct

                                But I did bust Timex which was pretty cool!
                                GG anyway, nice run and ul

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                                  #17
                                  After reading through the thread I've spotted some serious leaks in your quoting game. I'm hosting a Skype seminar later this week on the art of quoting. $700/hour. Pm only.
                                  It's all an illusion

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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by 72over View Post
                                    After reading through the thread I've spotted some serious leaks in your quoting game. I'm hosting a Skype seminar later this week on the art of quoting. $700/hour. Pm only.
                                    I'm learning!
                                    Last edited by Irisheman; 18-11-15, 12:20.

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