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Old 23-05-11, 20:03   #1
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I know a lot of you will probable know about this hand but for would still like to hear honest opinions.

82 players left, 81 been paid.
I am on a very tuff aggressive table, Jason Thomkins has been active enough (playing very well), history with villain, i opened from early position on 2 occasions when villain 3bet from bb and i folded, villain came over the top of a few raises from other players on several occasions with putting the whole stack in a few times.

1500/3000/300 Jason opens from utg to 6600 i think , villain ships about 75k from HJ, i am in the sb with AsKs sitting on 150k, i was putting villain on JJ,QQ,AQ,AJ now my thinking behind this is that if she has JJ,QQ i would be happy enough to flip and if i win it will put me on about 250k and then i can go on for the win so basically i am not interested in the bare cash which is not going to change my life but 70k would, and if i do loose i still have nearly 80k which is still ok, its still enough to build on imo.

So honest opinions please.
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Old 23-05-11, 20:05   #2
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Keith, I dont think you put a foot wrong.
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Old 23-05-11, 20:11   #3
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Seems like you have it worked out already tbh. You have villains range that you beat or flip with. You don't care about the min cash so ICM is thrown out the door. Get them in and run good.

You say Jason has been active enough, has he been active UTG?
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Old 23-05-11, 20:12   #4
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Keith, I dont think you put a foot wrong.
Cheers Dice, i have just been hearing a bit of criticism about the hand, so said i would put it up just to hear what people think, good chatting with you over the wkend, sound man
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Old 23-05-11, 20:14   #5
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Seems like you have it worked out already tbh. You have villains range that you beat or flip with. You don't care about the min cash so ICM is thrown out the door. Get them in and run good.

You say Jason has been active enough, has he been active UTG?
On a few occasions he had been so tbh i felt he was weak enough and he told me he had 9s3s but probably blagging but he did insta fold
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Old 23-05-11, 20:18   #6
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ship it in
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Old 23-05-11, 20:19   #7
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Seems like you have it worked out already tbh. You have villains range that you beat or flip with. You don't care about the min cash so ICM is thrown out the door. Get them in and run good.

You say Jason has been active enough, has he been active UTG?
Jason is a really tough player to play against. He opens from everywhere on the table because he's very confident in his post flop game. Not that it matters, but i'd say he opened to 6k instead of 6.6k as he favours the minraise

As for the hand, i'd be happy enough to get them in here Keith. Even if she had me covered, i think i'd be prepared to stick the lot in.
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Old 23-05-11, 20:20   #8
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On a few occasions he had been so tbh i felt he was weak enough and he told me he had 9s3s but probably blagging but he did insta fold
Shipping it all day long so. I didn't really think he would be a nit utg tbh but just checking.

I think the only time we can fold in a spot like this is where we have a read on someone.
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Old 23-05-11, 20:24   #9
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Shove them in super fast. Wouldn't see him with AA KK with this overbet. More like AQ JJ.
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Old 23-05-11, 20:27   #10
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ez call, even with deeper stacks.
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Old 23-05-11, 20:28   #11
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Ship it in, although on the range and given that its the bubble she would do this here with KK and QQ surely which you seem to discount? Or maybe I'm reading that wrong
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Old 23-05-11, 20:34   #12
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Ship it in, although on the range and given that its the bubble she would do this here with KK and QQ surely which you seem to discount? Or maybe I'm reading that wrong
Ya, its every possibility that she could have AA or KK but i was thinking that if she had she would be looking for action so i ruled them hands out.
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Old 23-05-11, 20:38   #13
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Yeah i'm getting it in and hoping this is where my run good works.

We have blockers for the two hands that crush us, we sometimes have them crushed, and it's probably a flip more often the not. Stick the chips in.
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Old 23-05-11, 20:56   #14
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You have Jason's extremely wide range crushed obv so wouldn't be at all concerned with his raise.
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Old 23-05-11, 21:17   #15
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Delighted to shove here tbh. Let's flip good.
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Old 23-05-11, 21:25   #16
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Folding would be silly.
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Old 23-05-11, 22:13   #17
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Looks like ye all agree with my thinking, for those that dont know i did make the call and she had QQ, K high flop and fkn Q on the river
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Old 23-05-11, 22:49   #18
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Ship it in. Unless you think HJ will be playing super tight because of the bubble, I can't see how you can do anything but ship here. AKs is a big hand.

You're putting in 25 BBs with AKs, nothing wrong with that. If Tompkins happens to pick up a hand, that's just tough luck, his range is so wide here it's practically irrelevant.
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Old 24-05-11, 01:23   #19
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Easy ship imo, assuming your range was accurate, which I think it prob is

out of curiosity, what was the basis of the criticism of the hand?
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Old 24-05-11, 02:46   #20
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I'd be worried about your range analysis, no AK? no 1010? and dont be afraid to put AA and KK in there too, cos its still a shove.......
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