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Old 20-03-17, 23:45   #701
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he confirmed Trump's claims about being tapped by Obama are a pile of shit
Really? I thought he tap danced around the specifics. I didn't see the whole thing though, I'll watch it tomorrow.
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Old 21-03-17, 00:01   #702
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Its next level stuff. I've read less outlandish spy thriller books. The president being actually investigated for whether he collaborated with a supposed enemy country to get into power.
The fact that the investigation exists is not earth shattering imo. If they find irrefutable proof he should be fucked out and jailed. If they find it had nothing to do with Trump or his associates then they should at least have answers about the leaks.
I don't know if the whole Seth Rich reward offer is a smokescreen on the WikiLeaks side of things but it's outrageously scummy if it was, I guess we may never know if he was the actual DNC leak. Between that and the latest Wikileaks which suggest that the US intelligence can make hacks look like they come from another country should force the investigation in that direction.
Snowden released docs showing that the NSA are collecting data, including texts and voice data. I don't think it's a stretch to believe it's possible that nefarious people have access to that.
The NY Times ran a story about phone tapping when the Flynn saga was in the news. So, they were tapping Flynn but not Trump? Or they were tapping people Flynn was talking to and captured his conversations, then used that information in the form of leaks to get him fired.
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Old 21-03-17, 00:28   #703
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Well personal, I'd question the premise that gambling is wrong.

But to answer it at face value.
One is betting on an outcome to order to win money.
The other is betting on a outcome in order not to lose money.
That small difference, is all the difference.
Insurance offsets bad shit in your life. Gambling is chasing a winfall.
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Old 21-03-17, 00:34   #704
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^^

Betting and laying ?

Big Little Lies, have gotten into this the last week, its a good watch.

Teasing the fuck out of the story though.
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Old 21-03-17, 01:32   #705
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Betting and laying ?
Not really.

Laying is still gambling. It involves betting that will won't happen (or a non-event will happen). The goal is to make money. Not betting is always cost neutral, you assume no risk.

With insurance situations, not "betting" can have large cost - where you crash the car, house gets robbed, medical problems, without insurance. You choose not to bet, you there's no way to avoid taking on the risk.
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Old 21-03-17, 05:40   #706
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The mark of the man will be that everyone, Brit, Unionist included, will be full of genuine respect for him in their tributes.
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Old 21-03-17, 06:39   #709
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Well personal, I'd question the premise that gambling is wrong.

But to answer it at face value.
One is betting on an outcome to order to win money.
The other is betting on a outcome in order not to lose money.
That small difference, is all the difference.
Insurance offsets bad shit in your life. Gambling is chasing a winfall.
You forgot one major difference.


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Old 21-03-17, 07:35   #710
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Insurance pays out....

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There is no legal guarantee in Irish law that gamblers will be paid their winnings, a judge in the Circuit Civil Court has said.
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime...-law-1.3017271
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Old 21-03-17, 08:13   #711
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Insurers are scumbags who scour the small print to find any reason not to pay out on basically every claim made.
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Old 21-03-17, 09:18   #712
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The mark of the man will be that everyone, Brit, Unionist included, will be full of genuine respect for him in their tributes.
You would not believe the things I have been reading from said Brit etc. No love lost and posts full of hate!
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So, they were tapping Flynn but not Trump? Or they were tapping people Flynn was talking to and captured his conversations, then used that information in the form of leaks to get him fired.
LOL, you really don't have any clue at all.
Flynn's calls weren't being tapped the phones of the Russians that he was making traitorous promises to were - as anyone with an ounce of cop on would have known.
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Ignore the clickbait headline, read the article. It's fun and relevant to our interests.
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Old 21-03-17, 09:45   #715
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LOL, you really don't have any clue at all.
Flynn's calls weren't being tapped the phones of the Russians that he was making traitorous promises to were - as anyone with an ounce of cop on would have known.
You may have a point or two but go easy on the G man. Bit ott.
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Ignore the clickbait headline, read the article. It's fun and relevant to our interests.
I liked the article just said the above as an aside
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Let the shilling commence for the Aintree Tipping Comp.

Having bate the Brits up and down the Cheltenham hill, come surf that supremacy at Aintree.

Two weeks left for entries for those with cash to burn after Cheltenham. For those with less lucre, nicnic has added to €200 to the prize pool which will be used in the form of a nags napping nomination.
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Insurers are scumbags who scour the small print to find any reason not to pay out on basically every claim made.
The calling string bet if you place rather than slide a pre-counted stack of chips out.
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Old 21-03-17, 13:51   #719
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The fact that the investigation exists is not earth shattering imo. If they find irrefutable proof he should be fucked out and jailed. If they find it had nothing to do with Trump or his associates then they should at least have answers about the leaks.
I don't know if the whole Seth Rich reward offer is a smokescreen on the WikiLeaks side of things but it's outrageously scummy if it was, I guess we may never know if he was the actual DNC leak. Between that and the latest Wikileaks which suggest that the US intelligence can make hacks look like they come from another country should force the investigation in that direction.
Snowden released docs showing that the NSA are collecting data, including texts and voice data. I don't think it's a stretch to believe it's possible that nefarious people have access to that.
The NY Times ran a story about phone tapping when the Flynn saga was in the news. So, they were tapping Flynn but not Trump? Or they were tapping people Flynn was talking to and captured his conversations, then used that information in the form of leaks to get him fired.
I personally find it pretty hard to believe that any Billionaire or person running for high office in america who is not investing heavily in anti surveillance is not being tapped or monitored by some state agency.

It wont be signed off by a judge but I dont think to much of a tin foil hat conspiracy to assume it goes on. I think it is the same in Russia, China, Britain, France, Germany and any of the countries with a military strong man or revolutionary hero at the helm.

Could be paranoia on my part but I think the paranoia in those countries far out weighs mine.
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LOL, you really don't have any clue at all.
Flynn's calls weren't being tapped the phones of the Russians that he was making traitorous promises to were - as anyone with an ounce of cop on would have known.
You are blinded by your hate for Trump, and I can understand that, he is a hateful person. It's making you sound very naive though.
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