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    €10 live r/b spot

    €10 r/b 'super turbo'. 7 players remain (it's freezeout now).

    UTG +1 is a skilled aggressive player.

    All others playing ABC, but likely to call with a rag +

    I presumed no strength as this kind of limping is the norm.

    500/1000

    UTG +1 limps 40K
    HJ limps 10K
    BTN limps 15K
    SB completes 5K
    BB (hero) JTo 9K

    The blinds are going up next hand to 1000/2000

    Is this an auto shove?

    Thanks
    Last edited by curleywurley; 13-01-12, 14:35.

    #2
    Originally posted by curleywurley View Post
    UTG +1 is a skilled aggressive player.



    UTG +1 limps 40K
    Does not compute.

    Ye, probably a shove. UTG+1 might be trapping but if you get past him you are adding ~50% to your stack. Hell, one might call you with their shitty limped pairs and you are racing for a double up and a half.

    JT has equity vs a lot of hands.

    How much was it in? Payouts?
    Redbet at the Dublin Poker Invasion FTW

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      #3
      Jesus No,
      If you shipped here I would auto reship if folded to me in any position with 55+ KJ+ A8+
      Take your flop, ship top pair, an openender or a pair and a draw - check to get in with 2 pair - dont continue with most anything else

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        #4
        J-Toff autoshove? Wouldnt say so no.

        At least one person is calling you. Wait for a better spot.

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          #5
          Originally posted by The Aul Switcharoo View Post

          How much was it in? Payouts?
          €10 r/b...

          1st 175
          2nd 105
          3rd 50

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            #6
            Not shipping here myself.

            Check to see flop -- take it from there.

            By shoving you're gonna get called at least in one spot.

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              #7
              I usually ship even though I know it's probably the wrong move...

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                #8
                Originally posted by FeetMagic View Post
                I usually ship even though I know it's probably the wrong move...
                In fairness in retrospect given the Dead money its probably very close bordering on correct

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                  #9
                  As above, you shouldn't shove as getting called at least once and behind to most hands. Take the free flop and shove if you hit any of it imo.

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                    #10
                    def don't see value in shoving here.. check see flop and obv if you flop big shoving is best play on flop

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                      #11
                      In fairness, most of the table has 10-15 bigs. With a couple of limps into most of them they are going to shove their big hands, even poor or average regulars.

                      I try to rob the dead money, and take the 45-55% shot against the pairs 33-88 that call you. With the dead money it's viable, and you're going to have to get agressive sometime, its still 2 to the money
                      Last edited by The Aul Switcharoo; 13-01-12, 15:25.
                      Redbet at the Dublin Poker Invasion FTW

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                        #12
                        I am never checking here. The table has limped around to you with majority of opponents only having between 10 and 15 bbs. Any opponent with a very strong hand is going to be raising here. J10 has a lot of equity against many hands within their calling range. The most likely hand you will be called by is a small pair somewhere between 22 - 77. Whilst some people may be worried about the utg+1 player limping, i honestly don't think with the stack sizes that he's limping here with a big hand but could be aware of the tendancy of the table to limp and he would like to see a free flop with something like 87, 98, 67 suited and of course small pairs are in his range. Obviously I am not eliminating the top of his range alltogether, but imo i don't think he's limping with the top of his range

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                          #13
                          it's a mheh kinda spot, not an autoshove but i think considering 3/4 are also v.short you have more FE than others suggest imo, and I agree your not in too bad shape when called..I'd shove or check depending on my image (loose-i check) (tightish-i ship)

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