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    Hand Dead Or Alive

    Any body know the ruling on this hand ? Live cash game , guy looses most of his stack in hand be4 , h has €15 left he puts in his €5 straddle , 'cards are behind dealt' then says I'm playin money behind , get up of his seat and heads 2 the cashier , arrives back 5minutes later , action has already passed his hand and I have bet 1 players calls , we have waited like 3 minutes for Ye player 2 come back , dealer says his hand is live , ends up beating me for roughly a €600 pot .. Any rulings on the hand would be great

    #2
    1. dealer is a idiot
    2. hand is dead once he leaves the table

    That is a joke u got screwed

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      #3
      Originally posted by 1Little_Nemo View Post
      Any body know the ruling on this hand ? Live cash game , guy looses most of his stack in hand be4 , h has €15 left he puts in his €5 straddle , 'cards are behind dealt' then says I'm playin money behind , get up of his seat and heads 2 the cashier , arrives back 5minutes later , action has already passed his hand and I have bet 1 players calls , we have waited like 3 minutes for Ye player 2 come back , dealer says his hand is live , ends up beating me for roughly a €600 pot .. Any rulings on the hand would be great
      Would assume he's live, for 15 euro.

      lol at waiting 3 minutes. Where was this?

      actually, yeah pretty dead.
      ﴾͡๏̯͡๏﴿

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        #4
        So dead.

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          #5
          It was in a casino in Monaghan , cheers guys

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            #6
            If your ever unsure about anything like this call for a ruling a decent casino should have a floorman whos knows his stuff come down and make a decision so things like this are avoided. Pretty shit though looks like you were screwed by an idiot dealer

            edit: had he looked at his hand before he ran off to top up his stack?
            Last edited by eamonhonda; 19-07-12, 21:23.
            airport, lol

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              #7
              Being away from the table for a few minutes defo hands dead. when you complained to dealer they should have called the floor and get them to make the ruling if the dealer cant or wont.. hard done by imo

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                #8
                The hand is beyond dead imo. Dealers an idiot and should never have said the hand was alive.

                My advice: never play there again you'll just get robbed again.

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                  #9
                  bump

                  bump LOL

                  minus ev place full stop

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                    #10
                    Lol Monaghan.
                    Looking for full or part time poker and betting writers. PM if interested.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by sixtwo View Post
                      bump

                      bump LOL

                      minus ev place full stop
                      that was a late post mate.. dealer has since been dismissed and a new sign has been bought

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                        #12
                        sry what? hand is dead dead dead, but you should have called the floor

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                          #13
                          From what you said, I would be really hoping he was allowed to play the hand. (Guy on tilt etc) Did you complain before he saw his hand or once you lost the hand? It seems unlikely you would complain if you had of won the hand. Just get on with the game IMO, it might have been a bad decision/ruling but it was totally fair.

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                            #14
                            lol

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                              #15
                              it might have been a bad decision/ruling but it was totally fair.

                              ??? which is it... its a sticky one for sure, seems fair for a player to top up before they play the next hand after they go bust or lost a chunk from their stack, but i think being away from the table for a long extended time their hand should have been dead, i agree if hero wins the hand this post might not exist but it happened and the majority of posters are swaying to the hands dead side..

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                                #16
                                The hand should have been dead BEFORE the hand took place (before significant action took place), once the two players got all in its basically angle shooting to try and have the hand called dead because of an infringement earlier. The player who was away from the table didn't get an unfair advantage.

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by sixtwo View Post
                                  lol
                                  Great post

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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Hectorjelly View Post
                                    Great post

                                    am saying that because i was there and wndering why this thread has resurfaced just

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                                      #19
                                      the rule is that the hand is dead as soon as you get up from the table, but since noone called for the hand to be killed and the player was allowed to return to the hand and get €600 into the pot it needs to stay live.

                                      Hectorjelly is right, you cant kill the hand because of a discrepancy earlier if you did nothing to prevent it.

                                      would you still be insisting his hand was dead if he had lost the €600, or if he only returned from the cage with €50? The rules are there to protect everyone.

                                      Initially the blame lays with the dealer who is required to find out how much the player is playing before dealing him in or tell him he will need to sit out until he gets funds to buy back in. But as soon as this moment is passed and the players allow the man to return then they are deliberately using the situation for their own gain. in this case it backfired and they are trying to get their own way by complaining.

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Hectorjelly View Post
                                        The hand should have been dead BEFORE the hand took place (before significant action took place), once the two players got all in its basically angle shooting to try and have the hand called dead because of an infringement earlier. The player who was away from the table didn't get an unfair advantage.
                                        Completely this.

                                        As you said before it amazing the amount of people who become rules
                                        Nazis once they have lost a hand. Clearly you wouldn't have been calling for the hand to be dead if you won.

                                        What were your hole cards by the way?

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