BB Big Stacked Late in Tourney Hand - Opinions

[Dice75]

20 Left - 12 Paid
€17,000 in Prizepool - €5k ftw.

Hero in BB with 200k
Villian UTG with 160k
Average Stack 90k
Table 8 Handed.
Hero & Villian are top 2 stacks at table & probably both top 4 in Tourney.

Blinds 1,200/2,400/400

Hero at the table for about 2 orbits & UTG has been quite active opening a lot for 2.5x.

Villian (UTG) opens for 5,500.

Folded to Hero in BB with A9o - Calls

Flop A47 rainbow (Pot 15,400)

Hero checks, villian bets 12,000.
Hero Calls.

Turn Q (Pot 39,400)
Hero Checks, villian bets 28,000)
Hero calls.

River J (pot 95,400)
Hero Checks, villian bets 34,400.
Hero calls.


Thoughts on hand?

*betting figures as accurate as can be remembered.

Edit Villian had Open Folded A9 a couple of hands previous on an A high flop after being 3 bet.

[Tremolo1]

Pre is awful.

Postflop is pretty villain dependent but i'm probably folding turn

[ikilldurrr1]

Fold pre. You're dominated too often and get into ugly spots like this. Make life easier for yourself and fold.

[JWillo1]

great spot for villain to triple barrel

[Bubbleking]

given that the villain has been opening a lot I prefer to 3b or fold pre - leaning towards 3bet because I hate folding

As for the hand I sometimes fold the turn and always fold the river providing the villain isnt a complete spewbox

[Moneymaker]

Pre is really, really bad. It's so bad it's almost beyond description.

Just fold and stay out of spots like this. You're often dominated and end up being valuetowned.

As played I probably fold the turn but once you've called you pretty much have to call the river I guess.

There are players that are capable of triple barreling with total air here, but i'd need a pretty strong read to call down this light.


I would really, really dislike 3betting also. Just fold, seriously.

[Tremolo1]

given that the villain has been opening a lot I prefer to 3b or fold pre - leaning towards 3bet because I hate folding

As for the hand I sometimes fold the turn and always fold the river providing the villain isnt a complete spewbox

villain is opening utg 8 handed

[Bubbleking]

villain is opening utg 8 handed

I know - 3bet here is a bluff. Villain isnt going to want to get into marginal spots with a decent stack so close to the bubble - he should fold most middle pairs and below and we have blockers to some Ax combos

[Tremolo1]

I know - 3bet here is a bluff. Villain isnt going to want to get into marginal spots with a decent stack so close to the bubble - he should fold most middle pairs and below and we have blockers to some Ax combos

Im aware its as a bluff, just think we don't know enough about villain to 3b here oop.

[Bubbleking]

Im aware its as a bluff, just think we don't know enough about villain to 3b here oop.

We know a little about him - hes been opening a good bit.

Also he doesnt know a lot about us

[Tremolo1]

We know a little about him - hes been opening a good bit.

Also he doesnt know a lot about us

We don't know how he plays vs 3b's, how he plays post etc if he peels. 2 orbits just isn't a big enough sample for me imo. I take the neutral ev play and fold

[ghostface]

I fold pre vs the other stack at the table

[Carl_Morrissey]

Not crazy about 3 betting but I prefer it to flatting with A9 in this spot. It's pretty much a insta muck for me. This board texture just smacks his UTG open range in the face. I'd fold the turn. After you call turn ya kinda have to call river too, looks a lot like your being value towned though!

[Closed_Account]

Defo fold the river anywho (u might of actually had the best hand til then), I dont care what price were being layed. Id fold this pre aswell, certainly v someone I think is good or anyway aggro.

[thechamp87]

Fold pre. Anything else is pretty bad imo but 3b has to be better than flatting. Either way, fold pre.

[Tremolo1]

Not crazy about 3 betting but I prefer it to flatting with A9 in this spot. It's pretty much a insta muck for me. This board texture just smacks his UTG open range in the face. I'd fold the turn. After you call turn ya kinda have to call river too, looks a lot like your being value towned though!

3b'ing>calling

[sligoboi]

3b'ing>calling

That's what he said

[8611]

given he's the only other big stack at the table I'm happy to fold pre and focus on the other stacks instead.

otherwise given villain's activity I don't mind a call pre at all. I'd have let it go given strength shown on turn. If you have managed to call turn you should call river but its the slippery road to spew town if you've gotten that far...

[Tremolo1]

That's what he said

my bad

[Dice75]

Anyway - I was the villain here & Hero's A9 was good.

Couldnt find the shove on the river but probably should have.

[Wombatman]

Fold pre.

As played
Flop fine.
Turn fold.
River fold. Shove anybody?

[Mellor]

Anyway - I was the villain here & Hero's A9 was good.

Couldnt find the shove on the river but probably should have.

What did you have?

given that A9 was good on an A47QJ baord were you 3xbarrelled - i'd say it was a fold pre hand

[Dice75]

What did you have?

Given that A9 was good on an A47QJ baord were you 3xbarrelled - i'd say it was a fold pre hand

<A9

[Bubbleking]

<A9

folding to a 3bet obv

[Dice75]

folding to a 3bet obv

Probably 4 bet, fold to shove

[ghostface]

Probably 4 bet, fold to shove

Internet kid

[Dice75]

Internet kid

Woulda saved me a lot of chips.

4 bet to c30k & either take pot or fold to 5bet shove > losing c80k to a player who cant put down A9 on 4 streets.

Unfortunately this type of player dont generally 3 bet preflop

Suppose this highlights the rule - never try to bluff a station