sunday mil.. what to do V river spot?

[DublinMeUp]

First post FTW!

ok i was gonna post the whole hand but that doesnt serve much of a purpose, Its a pretty ugly spot and i cant work out whether my play was good or not

vp/pfr/ag
villain was 27/ 7 /3 ( 139 hands ) fold to BB steal of 0/4, Fold to cbet 6/10

Poker Stars, $200 Buy-in (400/800 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8115372

Hero (BTN): 18,215 (22.8 bb)
SB: 32,752 (40.9 bb)
BB: 29,378 (36.7 bb)
UTG+1: 23,040 (28.8 bb)
UTG+2: 33,265 (41.6 bb)
MP1: 7,031 (8.8 bb)
MP2: 15,763 (19.7 bb)
MP3: 8,687 (10.9 bb)
CO: 12,900 (16.1 bb)

Preflop: (450) Hero is BTN with Kh Qs
6 folds, Hero raises to 1,701, SB folds, BB calls 901

Flop: (4,252) 9h Qh Kd (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 2,855, BB calls 2,855

Turn: (9,962) 7h (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (9,962) 3s (2 players)
BB bets 5,800, Hero ????

[Mellor]

Bet the turn
Call the river

[Angry-Ball]

call
i would ship and hope to be called by worse kings
if the guy turns a set or 10J call him a bollox in the chatbox and fuck off to bed

[peterswellman]

I don't mind the check on the turn for pot control but when he checks behind I reckon we have to call the river.

[BallymoreChris]

Check the turn & call the river, your good her 50% of the time. (calculation done in .00002 seconds)

[Caf]

I don't understand what the stats mean but I would play the same and nearly always call the river, unless those stats make villain a massive nit.

Bet the turn
Call the river

Why do you bet the turn? Are you folding to a crai?

call
i would ship and hope to be called by worse kings
if the guy turns a set or 10J call him a bollox in the chatbox and fuck off to bed

Where would you ship to get paid off by worse Kings, flop, turn or river? I can't see worse kings paying off too often on this board.

I don't mind the check on the turn for pot control but when he checks behind I reckon we have to call the river.

We have position.

[Angry-Ball]

Where would you ship to get paid off by worse Kings, flop, turn or river? I can't see worse kings paying off too often on this board.



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actually scrap my idea of a ship just noticed that there is also a flush out there
so i just call

[doke]

I think the check on the turn is fine for pot control and to get him to bluff or value bet worse on the river. At that point you're either well ahead or well behind.

Once you check the turn you pretty much have to call the river as your hand is underrepped so he may be bluffing or value betting worse.

[Moneymaker]

I like your line. Call now. He can be vbetting worse/turning some of hands into a bluff here often enough.

I really dislike a bet on the turn. We're never getting 3 streets from his Kx hands and it would really suck to be c/r.

[DublinMeUp]

ok it seems i didn't murder the hand as bad as i thought, basically for those of you that didn't get the stats this guy was a cally lagtard. what i had said to myself on the turn was i'll call a half pot bet and fold any size over 75% but then just insta clicked call which i wasn't happy with after

for those of you interested he showed up with:

SPOILER

J5h, for a flush.. ugh!

[Mellor]

I don't understand what the stats mean but I would play the same and nearly always call the river, unless those stats make villain a massive nit.

The stats mean villain plays too many hands, and don't raise pf near enough

Why do you bet the turn? Are you folding to a crai?

I simply bet for value. We likely have the best hand, plus we have a draw to the 2nd nuts

I like your line. Call now. He can be vbetting worse/turning some of hands into a bluff here often enough.

I really dislike a bet on the turn. We're never getting 3 streets from his Kx hands and it would really suck to be c/r.

The quote3d stats are only relatign to pf, but there is going to be a reasonable amount of corealation to tendencies later streets.
Given he is calling way too often, and not rasing enough. I think he calls down enough and I don't fear the crai too much. Get the money in early from Pair/fd combos etc

[PortOfTheYokes]

Def have to call river now given how under-repped your hand is after checking turn.
He's def v-betting worse.

[Guest]

You literally have to 100% bet the turn your too often missing value plus if he is aggro and if he checks raises the turn I don't mind 4 bet shoving!!!!
Your way 2 shallow to be even considering not getting it all in here you have top 2 and the 2nd nut flush draw and u started the hand 20 bbs deep please give me this spot in every hand I play!!!

[AndyFatBastard]

You literally have to 100% bet the turn your too often missing value plus if he is aggro and if he checks raises the turn I don't mind 4 bet shoving!!!!
Your way 2 shallow to be even considering not getting it all in here you have top 2 and the 2nd nut flush draw and u started the hand 20 bbs deep please give me this spot in every hand I play!!!

No, no you don't have to bet the turn. Checking for pot control is absolutely fine.

[Guest]

No, no you don't have to bet the turn. Checking for pot control is absolutely fine.

I dunno like im not saying its a terrible play but I just think its much more profitable in the long term vs his calling range on that flop to bet that turn because it is a big turn and you should really be willing to stack the turn because you are so shallow!!!

But I will admit there is an argument for checking just wouldnt be my approach.