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    180 man hand

    Nothing out of the ordinary seen from the villian.

    What routes do we take on the flop

    My bet is hoping to induce a shove from hands we beat on the flop.

    Can i check let him take the iniative ? If so do we check raise or let him bet again.

    I assume my thinking that i cant really fold the hand is correct ?

    PokerStars Game #57192660789: Tournament #361495778, $7.00+$0.70 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level X (300/600) - 2011/02/05 23:10:56 ET
    Table '361495778 5' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: Pop Brown 1 (12696 in chips)
    Seat 2: Looosser (6390 in chips)
    Seat 3: oso1517 (2354 in chips)
    Seat 4: Kartes_Cl (4998 in chips)
    Seat 5: fran_elero (3415 in chips)
    Seat 7: tipp86 (9800 in chips)
    Seat 8: krs4u (3146 in chips)
    Seat 9: Big RR 18 (3173 in chips)
    Pop Brown 1: posts the ante 50
    Looosser: posts the ante 50
    oso1517: posts the ante 50
    Kartes_Cl: posts the ante 50
    fran_elero: posts the ante 50
    tipp86: posts the ante 50
    krs4u: posts the ante 50
    Big RR 18: posts the ante 50
    Kartes_Cl: posts small blind 300
    fran_elero: posts big blind 600
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to tipp86 [Tc Th]
    Big RR 18 said, "what a donk"
    tipp86: raises 900 to 1500
    krs4u: folds
    Big RR 18: folds
    Big RR 18 said, "k-4"
    Pop Brown 1: calls 1500
    Looosser: folds
    oso1517: folds
    Kartes_Cl: folds
    fran_elero: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Js 8d 9d]
    tipp86: bets 1900
    Kartes_Cl said, "what a donk, yeah"
    Pop Brown 1: raises 9246 to 11146 and is all-in
    tipp86: calls 6350 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (2896) returned to Pop Brown 1
    Kartes_Cl said, "shove A9 when someone raise on UTG.... what a donk...."
    *** TURN *** [Js 8d 9d] [2s]
    *** RIVER *** [Js 8d 9d 2s] [Ks]

    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    tipp86: shows [Tc Th] (a pair of Tens)
    Pop Brown 1: shows [Ac Jh] (a pair of Jacks)

    Pop Brown 1 collected 20800 from pot
    tipp86 finished the tournament in 38th place
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 20800 | Rake 0
    Board [Js 8d 9d 2s Ks]
    Seat 1: Pop Brown 1 showed [Ac Jh] and won (20800) with a pair of Jacks
    Seat 2: Looosser folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: oso1517 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: Kartes_Cl (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 5: fran_elero (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 7: tipp86 showed [Tc Th] and lost with a pair of Tens
    Seat 8: krs4u folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: Big RR 18 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Last edited by tipp86; 06-02-11, 04:43.
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    #2
    I'm just all in pre-flop most the time here
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      #3
      Yeah I like a shove pre.

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        #4
        Possibly check/raise on the flop, if he bets, may get a fold from him if he puts you on the made straight, imho
        Personally I would probably push pre, but depending on the villians play, and perception of you he may still call
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          #5
          BBV that way----------->>

          can't see anything wrong with the hand really
          at what stage of the tournie was this, how many left was it in push/fold mode



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            #6
            My first instinct is to just say you played it fine and embrace the variance. What's your position and how many players are left? When's the bubble? I guess there would be situations where you could let this go, but nothing you've said would indicate this is one of them.

            As Emmett said, an open shove pre is fine. You cover all but one on the table so chances are you'll take the blinds or get em in against worse or a flip.
            "I can’t find anyone who agrees with what I write or think these days, so I guess I must be getting closer to the truth." - Hunter S. Thompson

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              #7
              Just shove pre, id shove AA/KK/QQ aswel at a reg filled table but you could raise these hands a bit more of the time because its not as bad when you get flatted. Raising TT off a 15 bb stack is going to be just stressful too much of the time when your flat called and from UTG your mostly going to be OOP.

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                #8
                I detest having 15bbs, so much tougher to play than 10 or 20bbs.

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                  #9
                  Wow never even entered my mind to consider i played this bad pre. I like the shove now myself to be honest.

                  Guess if we have 2 or 3 guys who cover us a shove is not great would that be correct thinking?
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Angry-Ball View Post
                    BBV that way----------->>

                    can't see anything wrong with the hand really
                    at what stage of the tournie was this, how many left was it in push/fold mode
                    Ah i felt i had to post it i know its not a massive tough spot but ive learned a little bit from posting it.

                    Originally posted by AndyFB View Post
                    My first instinct is to just say you played it fine and embrace the variance. What's your position and how many players are left? When's the bubble? I guess there would be situations where you could let this go, but nothing you've said would indicate this is one of them.

                    As Emmett said, an open shove pre is fine. You cover all but one on the table so chances are you'll take the blinds or get em in against worse or a flip.
                    18 is bubble about 36 left im about 10th. 10bbs leaves me about 22nd id say.
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by tipp86 View Post
                      18 is bubble about 36 left im about 10th. 10bbs leaves me about 22nd id say.
                      Ah yeah, standard play from yourself. I do like just shoving pre, though. And yeah, with more bigger stacks who will only call with monsters it's not so good.
                      "I can’t find anyone who agrees with what I write or think these days, so I guess I must be getting closer to the truth." - Hunter S. Thompson

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