Early level tournament hand

[Carl_Morrissey]

This is a hand I played tonight in the Jackpot 20+20. Blinds 75/150 Avg stack c.5k.

I'm the button with KhQh (5.5k)
Villain is UTG+1 (6k)

UTG+1 Raises 425
Button Call 425
Blinds fold.

Flop: 10hQcJc, Villain bets 500, call.
Turn:9c, Villain checks, I bet 800, call.
River:2d, Villain bets 1600, I call.

He shows me Kc10c for a straight flush.

My read on the player was he is a competent TAGish type dude. Normally I wouldn't disclose the hand result but I just want any opinions on how anybody would play the hand differently or opinions on how I played it.

Thanks in advance.

[Emmet]

bleh, ignore original post. Head is too fried to be commenting on hands.

This is fine

edit - delete the results btw,

[The Aul Switcharoo]

Nothing much can be done. A call down on that board is just fine I think.

Preflop..How many are at the table?

[Emmet]

^^ delete that quote, making me look bad!

[Carl_Morrissey]

He had a straight Emmet...

Nothing much can be done. A call own on that board is just fine I think.

Preflop..How many are at the table?

It's 9 handed. Full table.

[The Aul Switcharoo]

It's 9 handed. Full table.

Meh, its just standard.

[Carl_Morrissey]

Meh, its just standard.

Yeah I was just looking anyone who would play the hand differently, eg 3-bet pre, raise flop/turn etc.

[Emmet]

Definitely don't 3bet pre.
Why would you 3bet?
Why would you raise flop?
Why would you raise turn?

Just jot down thoughts for each of those questions, putting them online will help shape your thought process for hands like this.

[The Aul Switcharoo]

Raising an UTG raiser with 36 bigs wouldn't be the best play with such a marginal holding. Its a 20 with 1 rebuy is it?

The only play that would be different would be the flop. His 500 seems weak, but sometimes with live players they like small flop bets. If you make it 1700, your obviously calling the rest off and you run the risk of running into sets and your a 70-30 dog

OK this time he was raising light. Was he a serial raiser? You got away lightly

[DrJFF]

Definitely don't 3bet pre.
Why would you 3bet?
Why would you raise flop?
Why would you raise turn?

Just jot down thoughts for each of those questions, putting them online will help shape your thought process for hands like this.

i'm pretty sure shoving pre is +ev however prob not optimal line,



i think i might jam the flop,


also i check back the turn as played as it sets up more for the river,


the river is gay cos we are beat or chopping most of the time and winning outright seldom, his sizing is so small without better reads i'd be close to a fold

[Mellor]

My read on the player was he is a competent TAGish type dude. Normally

If he is opening K10 in EP then he isn't tag. (assume at fullish table)
The biggest problem with the hand is that you are going to run into AK a lot or another hand that dominates us. Your call down line is best imo.

He played it pretty bad. 4 to a straight, flush board on the turn he really should of gotten more value. Your bet was a bit small, and was probably a factor in him betting so small on the river

[Carl_Morrissey]

i'm pretty sure shoving pre is +ev however prob not optimal line,



i think i might jam the flop,


also i check back the turn as played as it sets up more for the river,


the river is gay cos we are beat or chopping most of the time and winning outright seldom, his sizing is so small without better reads i'd be close to a fold

Definitely don't 3bet pre.
Why would you 3bet?
Why would you raise flop?
Why would you raise turn?

Just jot down thoughts for each of those questions, putting them online will help shape your thought process for hands like this.

Raising an UTG raiser with 36 bigs wouldn't be the best play with such a marginal holding. Its a 20 with 1 rebuy is it?

The only play that would be different would be the flop. His 500 seems weak, but sometimes with live players they like small flop bets. If you make it 1700, your obviously calling the rest off and you run the risk of running into sets and your a 70-30 dog

OK this time he was raising light. Was he a serial raiser? You got away lightly

Cheers Jay. I actually was close to checking behind the turn.

The only problem with me raising the flop is I think I fold out hands I have beat and I only get called/shoved on by hands which have me in bad shape, (ak,kj,q10,qj, sets). I also think I get shoved on with monster draws which it turned out he had and puts me in an awkward spot, oh and sorry yeah its a 20+ 1 rebuy/top up.

[Moneymaker]

I check the turn, otherwise it's fine. Ul, cooler. Raising anywhere would be awful.

[bustamoves]

I call preflop for sure and wouldnt 3 bet since you have a peach of a hand to play in position and if you 3bet pre you are likely to get action in the form of a 4 bet by mostly hands that have you crushed.

I dont see any merit in jamming or raising the flop for reasons you stated.

I definitely bet the turn also for both protection and value. As regards sizing the turn bet. I agree with betting more.

As far as the river decision, it really looks like you are beat here but he bets so small i hate folding knowing that we can be chopping at least a bit. i would also delve into the memory bank of how he played previously as much as possible to see if there is anyway this guy is capable of an irrational bluff or blocker type bet with two pair to sway me one way or the other.

[tiago]

I was at the table 2 to your left. You played it fine, just a cooler. Really looked like you were beat on the river but as Bustamoves said price was too good to fold

[Carl_Morrissey]

Yeah you played good, its just such a weird spot. I can beat AcXx Type hands but thats it, even one pair hands turned into a bluff but I think thats it. I guess I coulda folded but the more I've thought about it the more I like the line I took.