IPO WTF do i do now hands.

[Wesley Harms]

Blinds 800-1500-100

Stacks

Hero 100k
Villian 110k (the only person in the room who covers me atm)

Just been moved to the table and still unracking my chips.

Villan opens to 3900 from MP
I flat from the BB with 9s9d
Pot now circa 9k

Flop Qs Jx 8s

I check, Villian bets 5200, i call.

Pot 20k ish

Turn 9h

Villian bets 13k Hero?


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Blinds 1000-2000-200

Hero 150k
Villian 200k ( once again ive found the only covering stack in the room)

Hero Opens to 5600 from MP with Ad 7d
Villian (Paddy O Connor) Flats from the BB

Pot 13k ish

Flop Ac 2s 7s

Villian Checks
Hero fires 8700
Villian Calls

Pot 30k ish

Turn Jc

Villian Checks
Hero Bets 20k
Villian Shoves

Now what?

[NuckChorris]

I flat in hand 1 (and prob call any river bet) and call in hand 2. Can't get away from those two I think. Just the size of the shove in hand 2 is a nightmare!

[max_power]

I flat in hand 1 (and prob call any river bet) and call in hand 2. Can't get away from those two I think. Just the size of the shove in hand 2 is a nightmare!

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[Denny Crane]

1. is a sick spot, might even just be a fold.

[Raoul Duke III]

1. is a sick spot, might even just be a fold.

never folding 1, call and reassess river

[max_power]

Like leading the turn in hand 1?

[carlop]

Does anyone just fold the flop in hand 1? I know its kind of weak but oop to the only guy that covers on that board is never going to be a barrel of laughs.

[colquhom]

Does anyone just fold the flop in hand 1? I know its kind of weak but oop to the only guy that covers on that board is never going to be a barrel of laughs.

I would fold the flop

[Guest]

c/f flop in 1 always.

[Flushdraw]

Hand 1 : I think i c/f the flop aswel. As played, i'd call the turn and reassess the river. Might even stick out a blocker bet on the river.

Hand 2 : Well played. Once i play A7 like this, i'm never folded to his push especially on a draw heavy board

[Icarus152]

Vill clearly has 1010 in hand 1.Fold.

[Bubbleking]

I call the turn and concentrate really hard on hitting the river

[Flushdraw]

Vill clearly has 1010 in hand 1.Fold.

Fold is crazy. We call here and pray we bink a 9 on the river for the immortals. How do we play the river if a 9 comes off?

Shove? Small bet? Big dwell and a few twitches followed by a check?

[Wesley Harms]

How do we play the river if a 9 comes off?

Shove? Small bet? Big dwell and a few twitches followed by a check?

CRAI obv

[Keane]

Big dwell and a few twitches followed by a check?

this obv

[Starvin Marvin]

Check calling the flop in 1 is spew.
Easy fold.

I not loving life in 2 but i have to call it off.

[Wesley Harms]

Check calling the flop in 1 is spew.
Easy fold.

Maybe so but that's not what I asked. What do you do on the 9h turn

[Starvin Marvin]

Doesnt matter what you asked, the point of these threads is to point out the mistakes in the hands.

Check call turn now and pray you house up.
You have 25% equity vs a straight and your getting 2.5/1 on a call now.

[mickste]

Flop is a fold in hand 1 and lol at everyone saying they call turn and "reassess" the river. You fcuking pray the river pairs otherwise you fold the river .

Hand 2 is a call, no overthinking this . The range of hands that have you beat is minute.

[Strewelpeter]

Flop is a fold in hand 1 and lol at everyone saying they call turn and "reassess" the river. You fcuking pray the river pairs otherwise you fold the river .

Hand 2 is a call, no overthinking this . The range of hands that have you beat is minute.

This. And then puke when his JQ boats up.

[Flushdraw]

Flop is a fold in hand 1 and lol at everyone saying they call turn and "reassess" the river. You fcuking pray the river pairs otherwise you fold the river .

I don't agree Mick. No reason why the villain isn't betting AA/KK/AKs/AJs here. If the river doesn't pair, we could still be ahead here. Good chance we're behind but we've a legit hand to go through all the options depending on what the river is.

[Raoul Duke III]

You fcuking pray the river pairs otherwise you fold the river.

so that's where I've been going wrong

[Morihei]

Hand 1: If you're not getting your chips in bad, you're not getting them in enough.

Hand 2: You are asking a rhetorical question no? Seriously, why are you not raising the flop?

[mickste]

Tony whats your plan if the board doesn't pair and he goes all in or puts in a pot sized bet or a small value bet. Villian isn't repping aa/kk at all here Tony. Hf is out of position and there is only 1 person got him covered in the entire room apparently. He's been called pre ,flop and turn, there is no aa/kk in villians hand if he's remotely decent.

It's fine saying that we are behind a lot of the time but that maybe we could be good, but you should have a plan for all possibilities on the river before you call turn

[Flushdraw]

Tony whats your plan if the board doesn't pair and he goes all in or puts in a pot sized bet or a small value bet. Villian isn't repping aa/kk at all here Tony. He's out of position and there is only 1 person got him covered in the entire room apparently. He's been called pre ,flop and turn, there is no aa/kk in his hand if he's remotely decent

Suppose he could check behind on the turn with AA/KK but i wouldn't be a huge fan giving free cards on that board to Richie so i might bet to protect my hand. I don't necessarily put my opponent on a 10 and if the river is a blank and it's checked to him i'd decide if he would value bet AA/KK/QQ/JJ or only bluff a missed draw or bet a 10. While pairing the board is great, a lot of higher houses also get there. I really like folding the flop because hitting our 9 puts us in a tough spot

[Wesley Harms]

Hand 2: You are asking a rhetorical question no? Seriously, why are you not raising the flop?

I cant raise my own Cbet. Thought that was a standard rule

[Denny Crane]

I don't agree Mick. No reason why the villain isn't betting AA/KK/AKs/AJs here. If the river doesn't pair, we could still be ahead here. Good chance we're behind but we've a legit hand to go through all the options depending on what the river is.

his value range crushes us, and even if the board pairs we might not be in great shape.

[Wesley Harms]

Hand 1

Obv the river was the case 9 and i got to CRAI.

Should i have lead the river? i was 99% sure the Villian was betting.

Hand 2

I dwelled for 10 mins lol and decided i couldnt fold. He showed 2c 3c and the river was a black 5, i nearly had a heart attack. Spade obv

[Denny Crane]

we also have tens a reasonable amount in our range

[Flushdraw]

his value range crushes us, and even if the board pairs we might not be in great shape.

Yeah said that in my earlier comment about the board pairing. I don't like the call on the flop because even when we hit our 9, we're in tricky spot and with QQ/JJ and QJ all possibilities, housing up doesn't leave us creaming ourselves

[Morihei]

I cant raise my own Cbet. Thought that was a standard rule

er... oh yeah! I don't recall that rule being changed either.

Good call!

[Theresa]

Check Fold flop in one.

Now, I'd call and prob and check fold the river unless it pairs.

Second hand I'd definitely call. The only hands he can realistically have that have you beat are AJ, 910s+, 77 and JJ. He has tons of hands that now have a pair and flush draw too. Snap it off.

edit: I didnt see results and obv completely misread the board in two so never mind. I thought it was an all spade flop.

[Theresa]

Like leading the turn in hand 1?

Why?

[max_power]

Misread hand, carry on. Thought we had a straight.

Hand 2 seems like a v easy shove.

[smoothcall]

check folding the flops a bit weak for me. especially if your mans competent. It's a board where you'd often check back for pot control with medium holdings. So his range is a bit polarised a lot of the time imo. I think not 3 betting this pre and then check folding is just too weak.

As played I'd prob call and give up river if he fires a blank. After hitting the case 9 i'd check raise all in