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    stud hi/low opinions please

    this hand,it was obivous villain had a straight on 6th ,was the call by me worth my while for a 2 card draw for the house due to what was in the pot.


    PokerStars Game #42053567259: Tournament #257460269, $2.00+$0.20 USD 8-Game (7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit) - Level XXX (600/1200) - 2010/04/02 1:08:01 WET [2010/04/01 20:08:01 ET]
    Table '257460269 4' 6-max
    Seat 2: RealSpliffit (15334 in chips)
    Seat 3: HRACH51 (20101 in chips)
    Seat 4: Daniel0220 (16168 in chips)
    Seat 5: pnh324 (16076 in chips)
    Seat 6: peteypop999 (33776 in chips)
    Daniel0220: posts the ante 120
    pnh324: posts the ante 120
    peteypop999: posts the ante 120
    RealSpliffit: posts the ante 120
    HRACH51: posts the ante 120
    *** 3rd STREET ***
    Dealt to RealSpliffit [9d]
    Dealt to HRACH51 [6s]
    Dealt to Daniel0220 [Ts]
    Dealt to pnh324 [8s]
    Dealt to peteypop999 [7h 2h 3d]
    peteypop999: brings in for 180
    RealSpliffit: calls 180
    HRACH51: calls 180
    Daniel0220: folds
    pnh324: calls 180
    *** 4th STREET ***
    Dealt to RealSpliffit [9d] [Qc]
    Dealt to HRACH51 [6s] [3s]
    Dealt to pnh324 [8s] [5d]
    Dealt to peteypop999 [7h 2h 3d] [5h]
    RealSpliffit: bets 600
    HRACH51: raises 600 to 1200
    pnh324: calls 1200
    peteypop999: calls 1200
    RealSpliffit: calls 600
    *** 5th STREET ***
    Dealt to RealSpliffit [9d Qc] [9c]
    Dealt to HRACH51 [6s 3s] [5c]
    Dealt to pnh324 [8s 5d] [Ad]
    Dealt to peteypop999 [7h 2h 3d 5h] [7d]
    RealSpliffit: bets 1200
    HRACH51: calls 1200
    pnh324: calls 1200
    peteypop999: calls 1200
    *** 6th STREET ***
    Dealt to RealSpliffit [9d Qc 9c] [8c]
    Dealt to HRACH51 [6s 3s 5c] [4h]
    Dealt to pnh324 [8s 5d Ad] [4s]
    Dealt to peteypop999 [7h 2h 3d 5h 7d] [5s]
    RealSpliffit: bets 1200
    HRACH51: calls 1200
    pnh324: calls 1200
    peteypop999: calls 1200
    *** RIVER ***
    Dealt to peteypop999 [7h 2h 3d 5h 7d 5s] [8h]
    RealSpliffit: bets 1200
    HRACH51: raises 1200 to 2400
    pnh324: calls 2400
    peteypop999: folds
    RealSpliffit: calls 1200
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    HRACH51: shows [2c 3h 6s 3s 5c 4h Qd] (HI: a straight, Deuce to Six; LO: 6,5,4,3,2)
    pnh324: shows [6h 7s 8s 5d Ad 4s 9h] (HI: a straight, Five to Nine; LO: 7,6,5,4,A)
    RealSpliffit: mucks hand
    pnh324 collected 11460 from pot
    HRACH51 collected 11460 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 22920 | Rake 0
    Seat 2: RealSpliffit mucked [As Ac 9d Qc 9c 8c Qs]
    Seat 3: HRACH51 showed [2c 3h 6s 3s 5c 4h Qd] and won (11460) with HI: a straight, Deuce to Six; LO: 6,5,4,3,2
    Seat 4: Daniel0220 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: pnh324 showed [6h 7s 8s 5d Ad 4s 9h] and won (11460) with HI: a straight, Five to Nine; LO: 7,6,5,4,A
    Seat 6: peteypop999 folded on the River

    #2
    as for the pot size v's the call, tight enough but:

    your in trouble for the low (you know that)

    so for half the pot your chasing for a house with RealSpliffit having a pair of 9's and part of a straight flush (unlikely) showing & he is betting out
    so even if you hit the house you could be dead

    put it down and save the chips! (maybe)

    ?

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      #3
      Originally posted by Elshambo View Post
      as for the pot size v's the call, tight enough but:

      your in trouble for the low (you know that)

      so for half the pot your chasing for a house with RealSpliffit having a pair of 9's and part of a straight flush (unlikely) showing & he is betting out
      so even if you hit the house you could be dead

      put it down and save the chips! (maybe)

      ?
      yeah,i knew i had no chance of the low,i was calling the 1200 on 6th for the high..
      i am concentrating on these small stakes 8 games b4 i move up stakes ,i can play low/ mid stakes horse tourneys quite well,but need to plug leaks to move up to high stakes ,horse,8 game ,razz,sutd h/low tourneys,so appreciate all advice given.

      ,
      Last edited by peteypop; 02-04-10, 01:12.

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        #4
        im a fairly conservative stud player; well taG, but you figured that out already

        but in mixed games i don't see anything wrong with tight(ish) play
        if at a table of very loose players keep it solid imo

        don't play the other mixed games yet tbh

        i like this book, its old school and tight but a very good stud grounding imo


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        half teaching/half autobiography
        its a great story of his life and all the madness that involved

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        Last edited by Guest; 02-04-10, 01:11.

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          #5
          I think the overcall on 4th was a mistake as you're dominated for low way too often and have very little high potential, even though it's multiway your low won't be good often enough. I'd want to be drawing to a 6 to continue here with the other guy showing 63.

          5th the guy showing 635 has the strongest lowdraw and probably has a decent hidraw to go along with it. If you'd made your 7low I'd have serious doubts about continuing anyway but pairing the seven just means that you have a very mediocre 2-way hand that will never be good for either half.

          As regards the call on 6th, you're getting ~11/1 to call to scoop so 5.5/1 for the high. These equities aren't great because I couldn't figure out how to use the simulator properly but should be accurate enough.

          Td6d|9dQc9c8c 13.16% 1,089 156,808 0 0 0
          LL|6s3s5c4h 55.92% 201,779 273,359 2,244 388,281 14,903
          7h2h|3d5h7d5s 8.81% 3,492 78,507 0 26,742 0
          LL|8s5dAd4s 22.11% 34,759 89,082 2,244 164,726 14,903

          So you have 78.5/597.6 = 13.1% equity for the high and hardly any for the low and you need 15% so a call isn't a big leak.

          Having said that I'd have folded 4th and 5th anyway.

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