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    lost with the same hand two nights running

    sorry for the long hand history, can't get flopturnriver to convert, if anyone wants to convert it i will edit it.
    went out in second with the same hand last night, chip stacks were almost even last night. only difference was villan hit it on the turn last night. went out in 7th tonight
    would anyone have played it any different?

    PokerStars Game #41951588126: Tournament #257460097, $2.00+$0.20 USD Mixed Hold'em (Hold'em No Limit) - Level XXIV (200/400) - 2010/03/30 17:42:19 ET
    Table '257460097 19' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: johann0030 (57019 in chips)
    Seat 2: team terry (25195 in chips)
    Seat 3: Terraexe (14958 in chips)
    Seat 4: finfino777 (36918 in chips)
    Seat 6: gitane59 (8510 in chips)
    johann0030: posts the ante 50
    team terry: posts the ante 50
    Terraexe: posts the ante 50
    finfino777: posts the ante 50
    gitane59: posts the ante 50
    johann0030: posts small blind 200
    team terry: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to team terry [Jc 4c]
    Terraexe: folds
    finfino777: calls 400
    gitane59: folds
    johann0030: folds
    team terry: checks
    *** FLOP *** [Js As 4d]
    team terry: bets 1200
    finfino777: raises 1200 to 2400
    team terry: raises 3200 to 5600
    finfino777: raises 3200 to 8800
    team terry: raises 15945 to 24745 and is all-in
    finfino777: calls 15945
    *** TURN *** [Js As 4d] [9c]
    *** RIVER *** [Js As 4d 9c] [6c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    team terry: shows [Jc 4c] (two pair, Jacks and Fours)
    finfino777: shows [Ac 6s] (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
    finfino777 collected 50740 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 50740 | Rake 0
    Board [Js As 4d 9c 6c]
    Seat 1: johann0030 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 2: team terry (big blind) showed [Jc 4c] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Fours
    Seat 3: Terraexe folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: finfino777 showed [Ac 6s] and won (50740) with two pair, Aces and Sixes
    Seat 6: gitane59 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    any thoughts appreciated.

    Deccy

    #2
    you got your money in ahead, can do little else.

    Bad beat thread ---->

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      #3
      Bottom two on pokerstars = certain death.
      'Mental Toughness is doing the right thing for the team when it's not the best thing for you' - Bill Belichick

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        #4
        Also, your reraise on the flop should be bigger

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          #5
          Should have re-raised to around 10k on the flop imo.

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            #6
            Snap check the flop. Villain will bet this flop with position nearly always 6 handed IMO.
            So he bets and snap over shovel it all in there boss!
            UL

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              #7
              Your betsizing at every decision point other than your shove seems real bad. Leading pot on the flop is silly. You should be looking at much closer to half pot here. When he makes it 2400, I'd make it 7k or so. 10k seems as bad as 5600 to me. It means he won't expect as much (if any) fold equity with a shove. Bout 7.5k seems good to me.

              Check/overshoving also seems pretty bad. Firstly, there is no way he's always betting this flop with his entire range. You don't even know what his limping range or tendencies are cos we have no reads apparently. It just gives him every possible opportunity to fold most of the strongest hands in his range. I would definitely lead here with no reads, cos check/raising this board in a limped pot seems like a pretty bad line. I'd just lead for half pot or so.
              Foldaramus et foldarabimus

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                #8
                first off i dont think he is ever folding,

                any hand histories i have posted all seem to have a common re occurence, bet sizing.

                its something i am going to have to look at. around four years ago i was playing 8-10 hours a day and winning regularly, biggest cash being 4.2k but 20+ over 1k

                due to a house move i never played for almost two years and i am trying to build a decent bankroll from almost scratch.

                I don't use any software and poker has changed alot in the last four years. I know I am playing alot tighter than I used to but I think that is down to a smaller bankroll.

                Bet sizing is something I will have to concentrate on.

                Thanks again for all the replies

                Good luck

                Deccy

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