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    Roulette ruling?

    On the live roulette on PaddyPower with about €50 betting on outside bets and about breaking even then lost a bit down to my last €10

    Have the €5 chip selected and went to bet on the 0 neighbours,

    Now admittedly I thought I had the €1 chips selected and planned on playing neighbours 0 x €2 so €2 on 3-26-0-32-15 but as I didn't actually notice I have the €5 chip selected and only had €10 in the account instead on saying "not enough credit" or something because €25 was needed for the full bet the bet was placed (with me only clicking once on 0 neighbours) it was placed as €5 on 32 & €5 on 15

    Now by this time the ticker ran down giving me no time to edit the bet to cover the 0 neighbours bet I wanted to and of course straight into 0

    Now i don't have a clue why the system didn't just refuse the bet but more confused as it didn't cover my main selection of 0, if it was going to accept the bet a 2 x €5 bets it surely should have started from your main selection outwards covering 0 & either 26 or 32 instead if totally ignoring your initial selection of 0

    They have sent away for more details from the live casino and said they will be able to see that if I selected the 0 neighbours they will be able to see I clicked it and will get back to me when they get more details off the live casino support

    Obviously it wouldn't be as annoying if it went and landed in the likes of 23 or something totally missing my bet anyway but the fact I selected 0 neighbours and it landed in 0 and their betting system chose not to cover my main selection 0 totally baffles me

    Have been requesting documentation for situations like this and the rules for how the neighbours bets are placed when not enough credit to cover the full neighbours bet but nothing exists apparently for situations like this


    Thoughts?

    #2
    Most likely, the software treats it as 5 singles bets and places them one after the other. Places them from right to left starting at two to the right.

    I'm not sure what will come of it. They might give you some credit as a good will jesture. But they might try and turn the fact that if 15 or 32 came up you'd of won $90 instead of the $36 you should of won if you placed the correct $2 neighbours bet.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Mellor View Post
      Most likely, the software treats it as 5 singles bets and places them one after the other. Places them from right to left starting at two to the right.

      I'm not sure what will come of it. They might give you some credit as a good will jesture. But they might try and turn the fact that if 15 or 32 came up you'd of won $90 instead of the $36 you should of won if you placed the correct $2 neighbours bet.
      Its a strange one alright, the numbers involved are €72 for the €2 bet & €180 for the fiver

      Must be causing a bit of fuss with the live support aswell because they said it would take 24hrs max to resolve and in 95% of cases are dealt with within a few hours & its coming up on 24hrs ago in twenty minutes at 12:57 now still with no resolution

      surely they should have written rules that state how the sytem will place your bet in neighbours if you dont have the full amount of funds available, going by their system if I had the €10 chip selected it would only bet €10 on #15 and nothing else

      Should definitly start from you inner number rather than the outside of the neighbours after all it is the inner number you have to click on and all bets are based around this number not the ones to the right or the left like if I had €15 in my balance in this situation it should have covered 26-0-32 starting from the centre

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        #4
        For some reason I was halving the payouts. Was thinking if a split maybe.
        Best case scenerio, you exposed a flaw in the T & C and get paid while they fixed it. Agree it should be placed frim the inside out Or not at all.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Mellor View Post
          For some reason I was halving the payouts. Was thinking if a split maybe.
          Best case scenerio, you exposed a flaw in the T & C and get paid while they fixed it. Agree it should be placed frim the inside out Or not at all.
          Didnt hear anything back from PP so gave them a ring and they got the report back from whoever and I dont know wtf the first guy in PP was writing in the report but totally explained the situation wrong to them saying I bet on 32 & 15 directly and tried to change it to 0 when I didnt, the only selection I ever clicked on the 0 neighbours and the system made the ajustments itself and moved the bets from the focus number 0 to the right hand side so had to explain it properly to the PP agent again about my only selection was 0 neighbours and the bets should start from the focus number that is 0 and in this case of their only being enough to complete two selections first place the bet on the focus number 0 and on the imediate number to the left or right hand side of that number not move to focus to the right
          Last edited by Donkathon; 03-07-12, 13:35.

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            #6
            Got one door slammed in my face with this from paddypower, expecting another few aswell but woth keeping it up for another while see where it goes

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              #7
              Jesus if I could only focus like this with a career I'd be using all your bankrolls for toilet paper like the boss that is Guy Laliberte


              So hit another stone wall with PP passing the buck back to the casino operations who claim they dont see anything wrong with the bet,

              Stephen at paddypower did test the system himself to see the bets are placed how I explained they were being moved away from the focus number so thats something that they can see at least

              said as they have gotten back from the roulette operations again with the same thing so its going to be dealt with in-house now and awating for that outcome

              As there is no rulings document I can find anywhere about this situation I contacted a few live casino mangers regarding the issue looking for their opinion on what priority they would give the numbers when it has been accept as €5 neighbours and only €10 balance

              Got in touch with a few different casino's here and vegas MGM casino operations who agreed with me and will get someone more senior to email me

              but the only email back so far is from the best casino in dublin

              A manager (I ask could i post his reply here out of curtasy but hasnt gotten back yet so will do when he replies) at the **** who has agreed that there should only be two ruling's

              1. Shouldnt have been accepted in the first place because not enough funds to complette the bet
              2. As it was accept in its form of €5 bets over 2 numbers "let the bet go to the nearest value like you rightly pointed out" (I guested the value to be 5th--3rd--1st--2nd--4th)
              so atleast I'm not going crazy thinking it should have been placed from the centre out

              cant wait for the mgm's response lol

              Offered to compile and email for the support so they can forward it to the programmers to show the general consensus is on the priority but the PP staff didnt give a fuck in no short terms

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