Fitz EOM hand 1

[Bubbleking]

Villain is a real drooler – limping in a lot and calling raises from any position. I already have him pinned as one of the value spots at the table. 50/100 level – villain has 11k and I cover.
I raise in late position after 1 limper to 325 with JJ. Villain calls in the sb.

Flop comes down Qh 9h 4s – villain checks. I check

Turn is the 9s villain bets 550 I call

River comes Kh – villain quickly bets 1100. Action?

[Raoul Duke III]

bet the flop for starters

as played, I fold, you only beat a bluff

[Wesley Harms]

If your a werewolf, then you would snap call. A villager would fold.

I eagerly await the results

[jackthree]

bet flop as played now i fold the river

[Flushdraw]

bet the flop for starters

as played, I fold, you only beat a bluff

This. All the draws got there on the river

[Moneymaker]

I don't mind a flop check as we induce a ton of bluffs from the drooler most likely. But there's probably value to be had from 9s, 4s, fds, JT,KJ type hands so maybe a bet is better.

I'd fold the river, the board has ran out brutal for you and you beat no value hand.

[Bubbleking]

This. All the draws got there on the river

would i be right in my thinking that the river is the perfect bluff card? I think Villains range is very polarised here.

I didnt bet flop because the villain would have called anyway meaning it would turn into quite a large pot with a marginal hand. if i checked back the turn id likely be facing this river bet anyway

[Raoul Duke III]

I didnt bet flop because the villain would have called anyway

this is good

[Moneymaker]

would i be right in my thinking that the river is the perfect bluff card? I think Villains range is very polarised here.

I don't think so. I'd definitely be betting a 9 as it's hard for you to have a flush. I'd bet a Q some of the time too. And obviously i'm betting all flushes/weird full houses.

[Flushdraw]

would i be right in my thinking that the river is the perfect bluff card? I think Villains range is very polarised here.

I didnt bet flop because the villain would have called anyway meaning it would turn into quite a large pot with a marginal hand. if i checked back the turn id likely be facing this river bet anyway

Its a good bluff card, but its also a good card for J10, heart draws, KQ and other hands villain may have. Your hand looks like AK/underpair so its just one of those where you will probably be right/wrong in equal measures

[eagle eye]

I would snap call the river. I don't mind losing to him as I just know I'm gonna get them all back anyways and he is bluffing pretty often I'd say.

[Bubbleking]

I don't think so. I'd definitely be betting a 9 as it's hard for you to have a flush. I'd bet a Q some of the time too. And obviously i'm betting all flushes/weird full houses.

sorry the flush draw only came on the turn which does make a difference IMO as a lot of FD are in my range

[Guest]

If he's as bad as you say he's not sparing a thought for your range of thinking about good bluff cards. Just fold (and bet flop).

[Bubbleking]

If he's as bad as you say he's not sparing a thought for your range of thinking about good bluff cards. Just fold (and bet flop).

i think thats where i went wrong in this hand i had him labeled as bad and yet I was thinking about the hand if i was in his shoes

agreed the flop is a bet in hindsight but wer probably getting to this river in the same situation as it turned out

[Raoul Duke III]

agreed the flop is a bet in hindsight but wer probably getting to this river in the same situation as it turned out

results based zzzzz....

less protein shakes for you imo!

[Bubbleking]

ok got the responses i was looking for - everyone considered it a fold which is probably right. i just thought the villain either had the nuts or air - i couldnt see him value betting any Q or K because it would be terrible and i convinced myself he wouldnt value bet a 9 because flushes made up such a large part of my range.

anyway i called to be shown Q4o - wp sir. i asked hi if it was a value bet or a bluff

[TommyGunne]

It was Q4s!

I fold river as well.

[Hectorjelly]

I hate betting this flop

[Closed_Account]

I hate betting this flop

Why-I first thought that I would never bet this flop but I guess the odd time Id bet some weird bad hands then why not bet JJ. You will 100% get called by worse here,and a lot of the time on multiple streets.