omaha hi low opinions please

[peteypop]

opinions on this was i wrong to keep reraising should i have seen this coming,was i unlucky or should u never bet without the nuts,i.e i had the second nuts.

PokerStars Game #41554939529: Tournament #303010611, $30+$3 USD HORSE (Omaha Hi/Lo Limit) - Level VII (150/300) - 2010/03/22 21:17:36 WET [2010/03/22 17:17:36 ET]
Table '303010611 7' 8-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Datterich (6272 in chips)
Seat 2: tasko44 (4643 in chips)
Seat 3: coriace12 (3330 in chips)
Seat 4: I_AM_NO_PRO (7377 in chips)
Seat 5: Braves1610 (4681 in chips)
Seat 6: peteypop999 (4328 in chips)
Seat 7: GuyACampbell (3976 in chips)
Seat 8: 2BITPUNK (592 in chips)
I_AM_NO_PRO: posts small blind 75
Braves1610: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to peteypop999 [Ac 5h 5s As]
peteypop999: calls 150
GuyACampbell: folds
2BITPUNK: folds
Datterich: folds
tasko44 has timed out
tasko44: folds
tasko44 is sitting out
coriace12: calls 150
tasko44 has returned
I_AM_NO_PRO: calls 75
Braves1610: checks
*** FLOP *** [6s Td Ts]
I_AM_NO_PRO: bets 150
Braves1610: calls 150
peteypop999: calls 150
coriace12: folds
*** TURN *** [6s Td Ts] [Tc]
I_AM_NO_PRO: bets 300
Braves1610: folds
peteypop999: raises 300 to 600
I_AM_NO_PRO: raises 300 to 900
peteypop999: raises 300 to 1200
Betting is capped
I_AM_NO_PRO: calls 300
*** RIVER *** [6s Td Ts Tc] [Ah]
I_AM_NO_PRO: bets 300
peteypop999: raises 300 to 600
I_AM_NO_PRO: raises 300 to 900
peteypop999: raises 300 to 1200
Betting is capped
I_AM_NO_PRO: calls 300
*** SHOW DOWN ***
peteypop999: shows [Ac 5h 5s As] (HI: a full house, Aces full of Tens)
I_AM_NO_PRO: shows [5d 3d 2h Th] (HI: four of a kind, Tens)
I_AM_NO_PRO collected 5850 from pot
No low hand qualified
2BITPUNK said, "hilarious"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5850 | Rake 0
Board [6s Td Ts Tc Ah]
Seat 1: Datterich folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: tasko44 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: coriace12 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: I_AM_NO_PRO (small blind) showed [5d 3d 2h Th] and won (5850) with HI: four of a kind, Tens
Seat 5: Braves1610 (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 6: peteypop999 showed [Ac 5h 5s As] and lost with HI: a full house, Aces full of Tens
Seat 7: GuyACampbell folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: 2BITPUNK folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[Caf]

Fold flop.
fold turn.
fold riv.(you can flat riv only since got there.)

On the flop your hand is crushed. Always fold flushdraw on paired board.
On turn he's not betting without the nuts IMO. He's not betting flush draw or 66.villain can only the 10 after leading the flop.
The river you went banana's IMO. Can flat the riv since your hand improved but you beat nothing that is leading out.

Why did you wait till riv to raise? What was your thought process through this hand?


You have no low draw so that is obviously not a factor.

[peteypop]

well the nut flush draw on the flop,+another 4 outs for a fullhouse.12 outer on the flop.
hit a house on the turn ,and bet it.This is fixed limit,not pot limit.i was flat called on the turn so couldnt reraise.on the turn raised then reraised and so on .thats fixed limit.Be honest how could u fold the turn with the second nuts?He is only betting the nuts on the turn,why wouldnt i have him on kings ,jacks or another pair .remember this fixed limit,150 on the flop into a 600 pot.

[Caf]

well the nut flush draw on the flop,+another 4 outs for a fullhouse.12 outer on the flop.
hit a house on the turn ,and bet it.This is fixed limit,not pot limit.i was flat called on the turn so couldnt reraise.on the turn raised then reraised and so on .thats fixed limit.Be honest how could u fold the turn with the second nuts?He is only betting the nuts on the turn,why wouldnt i have him on kings ,jacks or another pair .remember this fixed limit,150 on the flop into a 600 pot.

IMO he is only leading flop with A 10, 10 10, 6 6 or 10 6.
Do you think villain would lead out on 3 streets with kk-jj? He's shown strenght everywhere except preflop so to give him kk-jj doesnt seem like a good read IMO. Villlain is only betting when the 10 10 6 board comes so I would read this as where he made his hand

[Guest]

Id probably ditch this preflop UTG too.

[peteypop]

IMO he is only leading flop with A 10, 10 10, 6 6 or 10 6.
Do you think villain would lead out on 3 streets with kk-jj? He's shown strenght everywhere except preflop so to give him kk-jj doesnt seem like a good read IMO. Villlain is only betting when the 10 10 6 board comes so I would read this as where he made his hand

point taken.
the call pre flop doesnt signify too much in fixed limit,The percentage of players to the flop is extremely greater than pot limit.The call on the flop by me was extremely loose and that was due to seeing a lot of players bet one bet on the flop with air to try take down pots.Obviously never played im b4 so should have given him credit .When the 10 came on the turn this reinforced my view of him betting air,when he bet and i raised his reraise signified a full house (not the nut full house)which i had.Never in a million years did i have him on a 10,which looking back and after reading your view makes me realise that was pretty poor play on my behalf.Appreciate the feedback.

[EnzoScifo]

From the way you played, it should have been insta fold once he re raised you on the turn, unless he is a complete muppet he can only have a 10 here.

[Ace]

The river you went banana's IMO. Can flat the riv since your hand improved but you beat nothing that is leading out.

How has his hand improved on the river - its the exact same strenght as on the turn.

[Caf]

How has his hand improved on the river - its the exact same strenght as on the turn.

A,A,A,10,10 > A,A,10,10,10....pretty simple really!

[Ace]

A,A,A,10,10 > A,A,10,10,10....pretty simple really!

the hand is the same strenght though which was my point...

[TommyGunne]

No way I fold pre. No chance I fold flop. 4betting turn is a big mistake imo. I don't think I even 2b river.